CommutAir Verses Envoy
 

I was already given the job by CommutAir but have an Envoy interview this upcoming week. I live in New Jersey so my choice would be EWR for CommutAir and LGA for Envoy. With that aside, which is the better regional to go to? I know living at your base is huge and LGA and EWR are commutable for me. But besides that, which is the better airline right now.

One with the quickest class date! Wrong time in industry to be picky. Most regionals have frozen hiring... it’s matter time that both stop as well.

Truthfully I wouldn’t be going to any regional with primarily 50 seat flying these days. Go interview at Envoy.

Dude, have you been watching the news. If you have a good job keep it don’t go anywhere

Care to elaborate on that?

50seaters are limited 145xrs are 13 yrs at the youngest pax hate them why go somewhere where there is no future for the aircraft they will age out or be cut over the next ten years at best. At least envoy has a bunch of 175s.

that’s why United is putting in all new interiors in our fleet this year, I assume pending corona now

🙄 I doubt the commutair job offer is still valid by tomorrow. United is slashing 50% flights. White House is more than likely going to ban domestic flights in next few days for 14-30 days. These arguing over 50 seaters is stupid at this point in time. All our jobs are stake.

that was the old plan when business was booming.

good chance they all get parked or retired now

Driving from Jersey to LaGuardia is horrible most of the time and $20+ in tolls everytime you go to work.

Almost 30% of a 737 fits in a 145 (depending on 737 model). So if loads are really down to 30%, might make sense to run a 145 on that route... Only downsides are a 145 doesn't have the same range and is missing first class.

The FAA has given zero indication they are going to shut down the entire national airspace system. They, or individual cities/states may decide to shut down travel to specific regions or areas, but as of now they have given no real indication that they will do that.

I do agree we should all be concerned. My point was just that in times like these, the legacies WILL have to park aircraft to comply with current scope clauses at some point if mainline aircraft stay parked and revenues don’t bounce back quickly. They will undoubtedly park older 50-seaters before they park new 175s and CRJ900s.

no doubt they would DEFINITELY want to park 50 seaters before 175s n 900s.... if it were not for one little word. SCOPE. The mainline guys are not budging on it. 50 seaters will be around a while longer. Unless you are making a career out of regionals... 50 seater or 175 should not matter. Get in and out as quick as possible... unless you are waiting for the flow. Oh wait... what flow?

The flow has stopped because American isn’t hiring. American isn’t hiring for the same reason no one is hiring. I’m not sure what this conversation has to do with flow or no flow etc... When the flow is working the American wholly owneds are sending the most pilots to legacy carriers of any regionals in this segment of the industry. When it’s not working no one is going anywhere anyway.

Regarding scope, I pray you’re right. But history isn’t on your side, and what’s worse human nature simply isn’t on your side. The coming months/years will be very uncomfortable and at times painful. Mainline pilots will I fear give in to save their own jobs. Pulling the ladder up a little bit further. Again, I hope I’m wrong for all our sakes. But history has shown this to be true time and again.

Well, Commutair just stopped hiring. Envoy and the other AA WO carriers are still interviewing and running classes.
as many have said, all regionals are not the same.

If it does happen, my guess is it will come from DHS when they tell TSA to close screening, and probably won't effect cargo or GA.

If I can be honest, I just don’t think the WOs know anything except to keep on keeping on.

Once AA sorts itself out enough to trickle the information down, the WO management will put us in the same boat as every other airline.

Nothing is so drastically different here that we’d somehow be immune. That just doesn’t make sense.

Cuts don't have to be equal amongst each airline.

AA has planes coming off a Mesa contract in fall, and it seems their Skywest CRJ700's that were an extension of the ASA 700 deal that was an extension of the ASA 2011 CRJ200 deal, may be an option. I have no idea what will happen though.

I personally think AA didn't overcommit to Skywest to let them put their surplus 700's in service with AA.

To the OP, in this environment Commutair appears to carry a higher risk without a higher reward. 35 airplanes is much job security right now, even if hey are the XR model.