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03-23-2020, 04:36 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by nate5ks
https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine...9-1b767def5894
This article puts COVID-19 into perspective using data and what we have found to aid and inhibit the transmissivity of the virus. The government's response is overkill and it's ruining our economy and our industry.
This article puts COVID-19 into perspective using data and what we have found to aid and inhibit the transmissivity of the virus. The government's response is overkill and it's ruining our economy and our industry.
Are you not listening to people that recovered from this virus? I admit myself that I thought it was blown way out of proportion in the beginning. But this thing has mutated, and is worse than what came out from China.
03-23-2020, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawker445
Are you not listening to people that recovered from this virus? I admit myself that I thought it was blown way out of proportion in the beginning. But this thing has mutated, and is worse than what came out from China.
I really hope our leaders don’t ease up to soon. Better to suffer one hardship as opposed to many smaller ones.
03-23-2020, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
Which means nothing if your mainline partner cancels your CPA thru “acts of gods beyond their control”
03-23-2020, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Superviking
I think you meant did anyone expect the media to blow things completely out of proportion (well yes). If this thing had a 20-30% lethality rare I could understand the current level of fear, the only plauge currently is the media. For context Ebola kills 90% of infected,the Black Plauge killed about 50%.
Anyone who thinks this virus is no big deal should read this doctor’s account, it’s what they thought at first, too.
This thing is requiring ventilated breathing for healthy people, and we don’t have those in excess. We need to make sure our supply of ICU beds exceeds demand, or the results will be ugly...
https://www.propublica.org/article/a...young-patients
03-25-2020, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawker445
Are you not listening to people that recovered from this virus? I admit myself that I thought it was blown way out of proportion in the beginning. But this thing has mutated, and is worse than what came out from China.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...5b5_story.html
Not that a vaccine is right around the corner but with more widespread testing the mortality rate has seen a steady decline, at least here in the US. People should take caution and practice good hygiene but this economic shutdown is unsustainable. The economy will not just pick up where it left off and the indirect effects i.e. layoffs, homelessness, suicide, etc. could be catastrophic.We can't just keep writing stimulus bills to keep the country afloat.
03-25-2020, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by nate5ks
Not sure where you found that information but anything I could find suggests the opposite:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...5b5_story.html
Not that a vaccine is right around the corner but with more widespread testing the mortality rate has seen a steady decline, at least here in the US. People should take caution and practice good hygiene but this economic shutdown is unsustainable. The economy will not just pick up where it left off and the indirect effects i.e. layoffs, homelessness, suicide, etc. could be catastrophic.We can't just keep writing stimulus bills to keep the country afloat.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...5b5_story.html
Not that a vaccine is right around the corner but with more widespread testing the mortality rate has seen a steady decline, at least here in the US. People should take caution and practice good hygiene but this economic shutdown is unsustainable. The economy will not just pick up where it left off and the indirect effects i.e. layoffs, homelessness, suicide, etc. could be catastrophic.We can't just keep writing stimulus bills to keep the country afloat.
WTF are you talking about? All that article says is that a vaccine would actually work and be a profitable long term endeavor, and it's most likely at least a year away if there aren't any setbacks. Pandemics spread like wildfire unless they're contained. If they can't be contained then they only "die out" when there's a herd immunity because most people have gotten it and survived. 2% fatality rate WITH PROPER HEALTHCARE. Italy's hospitals got overrun and their mortality rate went to approximately 10%: https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...y-ratio-2020-3
And apparently they just aren't treating people over 60 because they don't have the resources:
https://www.jpost.com/International/...over-60-621856
About 20% need hospital care to survive. To put these numbers in perspective, 2% of the US population is 6.6 million people and 20% is 66 million. There are like 160k ventilators in the US. To get "herd immunity" with a Ro around 2, it looks like roughly half the population needs to get the virus.
What is herd immunity and how many people need to be vaccinated to protect a community?
So that's 3.3 million (2%) to 33 million dead (20% from lack of medical care) likely long before a vaccine ever comes out in the best-case scenario. There's no way in hell over 3 million people will die from suicide or sleeping on the streets because of a financial depression. Granted, people probably will practice social distancing and take steps to avoid the spread of the virus on their own, especially when the death count starts really ticking up, which would probably bring down the total cases, but we're talking about a lot of lives from every age group and I'm pretty sure that many dead people would also negatively impact the stock market.
03-25-2020, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Duffman
WTF are you talking about? All that article says is that a vaccine would actually work and be a profitable long term endeavor, and it's most likely at least a year away if there aren't any setbacks. Pandemics spread like wildfire unless they're contained. If they can't be contained then they only "die out" when there's a herd immunity because most people have gotten it and survived. 2% fatality rate WITH PROPER HEALTHCARE. Italy's hospitals got overrun and their mortality rate went to approximately 10%: https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...y-ratio-2020-3
And apparently they just aren't treating people over 60 because they don't have the resources:
https://www.jpost.com/International/...over-60-621856
About 20% need hospital care to survive. To put these numbers in perspective, 2% of the US population is 6.6 million people and 20% is 66 million. There are like 160k ventilators in the US. To get "herd immunity" with a Ro around 2, it looks like roughly half the population needs to get the virus.
What is herd immunity and how many people need to be vaccinated to protect a community?
So that's 3.3 million (2%) to 33 million dead (20% from lack of medical care) likely long before a vaccine ever comes out in the best-case scenario. There's no way in hell over 3 million people will die from suicide or sleeping on the streets because of a financial depression. Granted, people probably will practice social distancing and take steps to avoid the spread of the virus on their own, especially when the death count starts really ticking up, which would probably bring down the total cases, but we're talking about a lot of lives from every age group and I'm pretty sure that many dead people would also negatively impact the stock market.
And apparently they just aren't treating people over 60 because they don't have the resources:
https://www.jpost.com/International/...over-60-621856
About 20% need hospital care to survive. To put these numbers in perspective, 2% of the US population is 6.6 million people and 20% is 66 million. There are like 160k ventilators in the US. To get "herd immunity" with a Ro around 2, it looks like roughly half the population needs to get the virus.
What is herd immunity and how many people need to be vaccinated to protect a community?
So that's 3.3 million (2%) to 33 million dead (20% from lack of medical care) likely long before a vaccine ever comes out in the best-case scenario. There's no way in hell over 3 million people will die from suicide or sleeping on the streets because of a financial depression. Granted, people probably will practice social distancing and take steps to avoid the spread of the virus on their own, especially when the death count starts really ticking up, which would probably bring down the total cases, but we're talking about a lot of lives from every age group and I'm pretty sure that many dead people would also negatively impact the stock market.
My cousin is a dr in Brooklyn ny... i talked with her last night.. she just cried on the phone...
It's bad.. worse than anyone could have predicted or prepared for. Her exact words... "im losing so many young people..."
Unfortunately as regionals we are indirectly responsible for transmitting this to every pudunk city in America from our hubs.. of which the local hospital had maybe 1 or 4 ICU beds and 1 or 2 ventilators. Many hospitals are at or above capacity and it's just the beginning
Current numbers world wide are 4 percent mortality. Allot of the optimistic numbers came from south Korea... south Korea has an amazing healthcare system, great public health policy and early intervention. They traced their spread, the church group, and isolated very quickly.
Stay safe.. care for your family, care for your neighbor.. we have a rough 6 months ahead of us.
03-25-2020, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by OpMidClimax
My cousin is a dr in Brooklyn ny... i talked with her last night.. she just cried on the phone...
It's bad.. worse than anyone could have predicted or prepared for. Her exact words... "im losing so many young people..."
Unfortunately as regionals we are indirectly responsible for transmitting this to every pudunk city in America from our hubs.. of which the local hospital had maybe 1 or 4 ICU beds and 1 or 2 ventilators. Many hospitals are at or above capacity and it's just the beginning
Current numbers world wide are 4 percent mortality. Allot of the optimistic numbers came from south Korea... south Korea has an amazing healthcare system, great public health policy and early intervention. They traced their spread, the church group, and isolated very quickly.
Stay safe.. care for your family, care for your neighbor.. we have a rough 6 months ahead of us.
It's bad.. worse than anyone could have predicted or prepared for. Her exact words... "im losing so many young people..."
Unfortunately as regionals we are indirectly responsible for transmitting this to every pudunk city in America from our hubs.. of which the local hospital had maybe 1 or 4 ICU beds and 1 or 2 ventilators. Many hospitals are at or above capacity and it's just the beginning
Current numbers world wide are 4 percent mortality. Allot of the optimistic numbers came from south Korea... south Korea has an amazing healthcare system, great public health policy and early intervention. They traced their spread, the church group, and isolated very quickly.
Stay safe.. care for your family, care for your neighbor.. we have a rough 6 months ahead of us.
CovidGraph
03-25-2020, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by skyemiles2
Here are some less sensationalized overall numbers. This is not to try and take away from the seriousness of the situation, but rather to supply facts based on what is known.
CovidGraph
CovidGraph
I think allot of us have turned into armchair epidemiologist... i personally believe we're a few weeks from knowing anything here in the usa.. NYC is the first domino. im most concerned about Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia and Florida. Im no expert but looking at this holistically and the resources of our healthcare system.
China controlled their spread. South Korea prevented population penetration. Italy and Spain are struggling but Italy had reduced daily cases. Germany is doing a very good job at preventing penetration.
03-25-2020, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by OpMidClimax
I think allot of us have turned into armchair epidemiologist... i personally believe we're a few weeks from knowing anything here in the usa.. NYC is the first domino. im most concerned about Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia and Florida. Im no expert but looking at this holistically and the resources of our healthcare system.
China controlled their spread. South Korea prevented population penetration. Italy and Spain are struggling but Italy had reduced daily cases. Germany is doing a very good job at preventing penetration.
China controlled their spread. South Korea prevented population penetration. Italy and Spain are struggling but Italy had reduced daily cases. Germany is doing a very good job at preventing penetration.
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