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ExperimentalAB 05-19-2007 08:39 PM

SKW Class-date
 
So I've been offered a class-date with SkyWest!!

I couldn't be more thrilled :-) I was so completely impressed with everything I saw during my visit to SLC that I couldn't imagine being anywhere else! And what a thorough Interview! You have to respect a company that really wants to see what you're made of like that...

Unfortunately, I didn't have the full two-weeks to give notice to my Flight Manager, but he was super-cool about it. Is there anyone else here I'll be seeing on the 28th for the CRJ??

And a question for you current SKW guys, I would really appreciate some info on what the Lines are like out of SLC, DEN, and ATL...if anybody could send me a PM I'd be super, super-appreciative! For example: Will an ATL crew flow-through SLC flying during a trip?

Well I guess I'm off to bed...I fly my last leg on the EMB-145 early tomorrow morning ::long sigh:: I'm gonna miss her a heck of a lot (and her Ram Horns LoL)...

Goodnight!

P.S. Am I hearing correctly that SKW has lowered their mins??!

rickair7777 05-20-2007 08:03 AM

Welcome. Are you LAMA?

Don't know much about ATL yet, it is just opening up.

SLC has a LOT of pilots living in domicile...it's common for them to delay upgrade until they can hold a decent line as a CA, so there are some very senior FO's. Recently they massively reduced the number of 4-day trips and increased the number of two day trips. This is good for pilots who live in domicile (home more often) and the company (less per diem and hotels), but bad for commuters who don't want an overnight break in domicile where they need a crashpad. I am still able to get mostly 4 days though. Both UAX and DAL trips start here, the DAL trips are pretty good, but the UAX often flow through places you don't want to go (ORD)

Historically, seniority (and schedule) has been better in DEN, due to super-senior folks in SLC but this is less true now with all the SLC growth. The downside to DEN is UAX trips that flow through ORD...lots of short, nasty legs and Wx potential.

The junior base is MKE anyway. Either DEN or SLC would be good if you live there, as a commuter I would probably take DEN.

Seatownflyer 05-20-2007 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 168188)
P.S. Am I hearing correctly that SKW has lowered their mins??!

Congrats! I don't know, the website still reads 1000/100

rickair7777 05-20-2007 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Seatownflyer (Post 168392)
Congrats! I don't know, the website still reads 1000/100

There is an agrrement with ATP to INTERVIEW (I say again, INTERVIEW) pilots at something like 800/50. Those that get a conditional offer still need to acquire 1000/100 before they get a class date.

Bascuela 05-20-2007 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 168188)
So I've been offered a class-date with SkyWest!!

I couldn't be more thrilled :-) I was so completely impressed with everything I saw during my visit to SLC that I couldn't imagine being anywhere else! And what a thorough Interview! You have to respect a company that really wants to see what you're made of like that...

Unfortunately, I didn't have the full two-weeks to give notice to my Flight Manager, but he was super-cool about it. Is there anyone else here I'll be seeing on the 28th for the CRJ??

And a question for you current SKW guys, I would really appreciate some info on what the Lines are like out of SLC, DEN, and ATL...if anybody could send me a PM I'd be super, super-appreciative! For example: Will an ATL crew flow-through SLC flying during a trip?

Well I guess I'm off to bed...I fly my last leg on the EMB-145 early tomorrow morning ::long sigh:: I'm gonna miss her a heck of a lot (and her Ram Horns LoL)...

Goodnight!

P.S. Am I hearing correctly that SKW has lowered their mins??!



I'll be there, guess we're staying at the Holiday Inn and not the Candlewood which is right next door.

freezingflyboy 05-20-2007 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Bascuela (Post 168467)
I'll be there, guess we're staying at the Holiday Inn and not the Candlewood which is right next door.

Well thats a kick in the nuts. Candlewoods are niiiice.

LITTLEa905 05-20-2007 02:16 PM

Congratulations!

Actually the Holiday Inn just opened up within the last couple of weeks, it was being built right beside the Comfort while I was there for training last month. Looked pretty nice, you guys should be set.

I finally got word on IOE myself, about 4 weeks from a/c ride to IOE.

rickair7777 05-20-2007 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by LITTLEa905 (Post 168476)
I finally got word on IOE myself, about 4 weeks from a/c ride to IOE.

:eek:

Maybe I'll transition to the bro just to get a month off.

ExperimentalAB 05-20-2007 02:35 PM

I got a "conditional" offer of employment...and a class-date for a week later??

I thought "conditional" meant in regards to completing the training program. I sure hope so 'cause I've just said goodbye to my company LoL

So, is most of the DEN flying in the 200 or the 700 would you say?

P.S. I LIKED Candlewood...I've never had anything good to say about my many-a-night at ANY Holiday Inn arghhh...

JetJock16 05-20-2007 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 168489)
I got a "conditional" offer of employment...and a class-date for a week later??

I thought "conditional" meant in regards to completing the training program. I sure hope so 'cause I've just said goodbye to my company LoL

So, is most of the DEN flying in the 200 or the 700 would you say?

P.S. I LIKED Candlewood...I've never had anything good to say about my many-a-night at ANY Holiday Inn arghhh...

The "Conditional" statement is a legal term meaning that your job offer is based upon you passing your screening (drug test, background, etc). If you're currently flying 121 then no problem, you're fine!

Currently I'm DEN based but I'm making my way around. I transferred to SLC (didn't hear about ATL until after accepting SLC) for June and was awarded ATL for July (my wife and I are moving there, ATL is centralized for both of our families). Just making the rounds! About 1/3 of the DEN flying is 700, all the 900 flying is Delta. The 200’s an OK bird but the CR7/9 are in a class of their own (beauty, power and technology).

As for ATL, no one knows yet but when June 9th comes around and I see them for the first time I’ll post my findings. Seeing that we already have about 15 destinations out of ATL and more on the way, I'm sure it'll mainly be 3 & 4 day commutable trips. There are 18 FO's now based in ATL for July so I'm expecting around 12 lines and maybe some flying through SLC but not much.

If you have any other questions then drop me a PM.

Good day!

Seatownflyer 05-20-2007 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 168484)
:eek:

Maybe I'll transition to the bro just to get a month off.

Damn, a month? I got 7 days off. Start IOE on tuesday.

POPA 05-20-2007 03:34 PM

You forgot to ask if anybody has any material for you to study. :)

Bascuela 05-20-2007 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by LITTLEa905 (Post 168476)
Congratulations!

Actually the Holiday Inn just opened up within the last couple of weeks, it was being built right beside the Comfort while I was there for training last month. Looked pretty nice, you guys should be set.

I finally got word on IOE myself, about 4 weeks from a/c ride to IOE.

yeah thats what i've heard too, about 4-5 weeks delay from check to IOE? I'm assuming this is still "training pay"?

bender 05-20-2007 04:17 PM

I started earning regular pay as soon as I finished either my checkride or aircraft checkout. It was well before I started IOE.

bender 05-20-2007 04:25 PM


And a question for you current SKW guys, I would really appreciate some info on what the Lines are like out of SLC, DEN, and ATL...if anybody could send me a PM I'd be super, super-appreciative! For example: Will an ATL crew flow-through SLC flying during a trip?
DEN crews flow through ORD quite a bit which isn't totally bad. You might have more delays than the other bases, but our rampers/controllers are better than DEN or SLC. ATL opens in July and we haven't seen what the pairings are like yet. ATL went more senior than I thought it would so, depending on how much it grows, you might be on reserve down there at least 3-4 months.

Bascuela 05-20-2007 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 168472)
Well thats a kick in the nuts. Candlewoods are niiiice.

Yeah I called over to the "new Holiday Inn express" and the're not sure but they think we (28th class) are at the downtown one. Can anyone confirm this becuase I have no gotten the email from Sharmane with details yet. Most people have advised me against it but I'm not driving my car out there (coming from CA). Is there still a shuttle to the skywest hangar from the downtown Holiday Inn? Thanks

Seatownflyer 05-20-2007 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by Bascuela (Post 168540)
Yeah I called over to the "new Holiday Inn express" and the're not sure but they think we (28th class) are at the downtown one. Can anyone confirm this becuase I have no gotten the email from Sharmane with details yet. Most people have advised me against it but I'm not driving my car out there (coming from CA). Is there still a shuttle to the skywest hangar from the downtown Holiday Inn? Thanks

The shuttle depends on the hotel. My class got stuck at the Red Lion. While the hotel was nicer than the Candlewood, the shuttle service was HORRIBLE. They would only take us to the hangar in the morning and pick us up at the hangar at 5pm. If we got done early, they refused to come pick us up. Thats okay though, we just worked on our flows. They refused to take us anywhere in town. except once. We relied heavily on two people that brought their cars. Thanks guys!

Slaphappy 05-20-2007 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 168188)
So I've been offered a class-date with SkyWest!!

I couldn't be more thrilled :-) I was so completely impressed with everything I saw during my visit to SLC that I couldn't imagine being anywhere else! And what a thorough Interview! You have to respect a company that really wants to see what you're made of like that...

Unfortunately, I didn't have the full two-weeks to give notice to my Flight Manager, but he was super-cool about it. Is there anyone else here I'll be seeing on the 28th for the CRJ??

And a question for you current SKW guys, I would really appreciate some info on what the Lines are like out of SLC, DEN, and ATL...if anybody could send me a PM I'd be super, super-appreciative! For example: Will an ATL crew flow-through SLC flying during a trip?

Well I guess I'm off to bed...I fly my last leg on the EMB-145 early tomorrow morning ::long sigh:: I'm gonna miss her a heck of a lot (and her Ram Horns LoL)...

Goodnight!

Welcome to the BEST regional in the industry where our goals are high and our standards are even higher. Most people know this and I'm sure you did too. Our managment team is the best in the regional industry comparable to Herb and Gordan, so you know we will be around for a long time. You made a good choice and I notice you came from another carrier which one was it? I'm sure it was a former Alpa carrier, we get plenty of people from other carriers.

The lines out of SLC and DEN are great lots of west coast flying to fun destinations that our crews enjoy going to.



P.S. Am I hearing correctly that SKW has lowered their mins??!
Nope still 1000/100 we don't need to lower them since people leave other airlines to come here. When you're on top you can be very selective.

JetJock16 05-20-2007 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Seatownflyer (Post 168510)
Damn, a month? I got 7 days off. Start IOE on tuesday.

I only waited 3 days for IOE when I was on the Bro and 5 weeks for IOE on the jet. During that 5 weeks I called 4 times a week until I got my answer, our IOE coordinator told me that all MKE pilots had priority and it will remain so through the end of the year. Mainly because we're short in MKE and every month we gain flying (in MKE) so it's a struggle to train pilots fast enough to keep out with the line demands. If you get any other domicile you'll sit for 4+ weeks until they can squeeze you in. Bid MKE if you want to complete IOE ASAP otherwise enjoy your 4 weeks off with full reserve pay and use your pilot privileges to travel (go see friends, family, abroad, etc.).

JetJock16 05-20-2007 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 168577)
Welcome to the BEST regional in the industry where our goals are high and our standards are even higher. Most people know this and I'm sure you did too. Our managment team is the best in the regional industry comparable to Herb and Gordan, so you know we will be around for a long time. You made a good choice and I notice you came from another carrier which one was it? I'm sure it was a former Alpa carrier, we get plenty of people from other carriers.

The lines out of SLC and DEN are great lots of west coast flying to fun destinations that our crews enjoy going to.




Nope still 1000/100 we don't need to lower them since people leave other airlines to come here. When you're on top you can be very selective.

Although I share most, definitely not all, of your opinions I still feel that you're on a sugar high from too much Kool-Aid. Next time remember to mix it with water, it’s not health to snort it.

Seatownflyer 05-20-2007 06:08 PM

Too bad we're not the best when it comes to pay.

JetJock16 05-20-2007 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Seatownflyer (Post 168596)
Too bad we're not the best when it comes to pay.

Ask those at Comair or AWAC if they'd take their pay/stability or our pay/stability/growth/upgrade. BTW, my W2's consistently beat those of my friends at other carriers. I'll make $45K+ my second year as FO at SKW, I hold 3 & 4 day trips that begin around noon and end before noon, not to mention I'll upgrade long before they do (CA pay please).

Remember that being tops in the industry will only lead to higher cost and less flying. There has to be balance and SKW does a great job keeping us WELL above average in both pay and QOL while maintaining/gaining flying that allows us to grow, upgrade and ultimately make more money. When your future is based up codeshares it’s imperative that you keep cost low and moral high, nobody does it better than SKW; this is business 101.

Seatownflyer 05-20-2007 06:41 PM

19k/year. *sigh*


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 168615)
Ask those at Comair or AWAC if they'd take their pay/stability or our pay/stability/growth/upgrade. BTW, my W2's consistently beat those of my friends at other carriers. I'll make $45K+ my second year as FO at SKW, I hold 3 & 4 day trips that begin around noon and end before noon, not to mention I'll upgrade long before they do (CA pay please).

Remember that being tops in the industry will only lead to higher cost and less flying. There has to be balance and SKW does a great job keeping us WELL above average in both pay and QOL while maintaining/gaining flying that allows us to grow, upgrade and ultimately make more money. When your future is based up codeshares it’s imperative that you keep cost low and moral high, nobody does it better than SKW; this is business 101.


JetJock16 05-20-2007 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Seatownflyer (Post 168620)
19k/year. *sigh*

It's part of how they offset your training cost. Bottom line, first year pay SUX EVERYWHERE!

UPS only pays $33 an hour first year; second year's a different story. All the Legacies pay around $30-$35 an hour first year, with the exception of US Airways that pays $25 and Delta that pays $49.

freezingflyboy 05-20-2007 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 168577)
Welcome to the BEST regional in the industry where our goals are high and our standards are even higher. Most people know this and I'm sure you did too. Our managment team is the best in the regional industry comparable to Herb and Gordan, so you know we will be around for a long time. You made a good choice and I notice you came from another carrier which one was it? I'm sure it was a former Alpa carrier, we get plenty of people from other carriers.

The lines out of SLC and DEN are great lots of west coast flying to fun destinations that our crews enjoy going to.

That kool-aid mustache goes well with your sh!t-toothed grin:rolleyes:

JetJock16 05-20-2007 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 168635)
That kool-aid mustache goes well with your sh!t-toothed grin:rolleyes:

I agree!

Hey Freez, how's the branded going? Any numbers out? I've seen you guys in ABQ, GEG, ONT and SMF. The colors are growing on me but it would be a lot cooler if your guys wore afros! :D Ha Ha Ha! Straight 70's baby! Maybe some dice in the windows, shag carpet and necked female mud flaps. Oh Yaaaaaaaaa!!

Best of luck and I'm pulling for you.

Slaphappy 05-20-2007 07:20 PM

I would also like to add something ExperimentalAB, you might get attacked by some people who work for some less desirable regionals. They do this because they are jelious of the success of skywest and the fact that at the end of the year we make more.

JetJock16 05-20-2007 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 168643)
I'd also like to add something ExperimentalAB, you might get attacked by some people who work for some less than desirerable regionals because they're jelious of the success of the skywest and the fact that we bank more at the end of the their than they do.

Slap, please proof read. I know we all make mistakes but this is terrible. I don't mind a few misspellings but......................just proof read.

Slaphappy 05-20-2007 07:39 PM

is that better?

JetJock16 05-20-2007 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 168643)
I would also like to add something ExperimentalAB, you might get attacked by some people who work for some less desirable regionals. They do this because they are jelious of the success of skywest and the fact that at the end of the year we make more.

Much better and good point.

Seatownflyer 05-20-2007 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 168630)
It's part of how they offset your training cost. Bottom line, first year pay SUX EVERYWHERE!

UPS only pays $33 an hour first year; second year's a different story. All the Legacies pay around $30-$35 an hour first year, with the exception of US Airways that pays $25 and Delta that pays $49.

yeah, i know. I just had to ***** after finding out how much its going to cost to fix my car. :) I didn't interview anywhere else. Waited until 1200tt before I even considered applying. Skywest was always my 1st choice.

JetJock16 05-20-2007 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Seatownflyer (Post 168659)
yeah, i know. I just had to ***** after finding out how much its going to cost to fix my car. :) I didn't interview anywhere else. Waited until 1200tt before I even considered applying. Skywest was always my 1st choice.

I did as well; SKW was my first choice and my only interview. I don’t count myself lucky, I just consider myself smart. There's no other regional I'd rather be at!

I had 1150TT and 140 multi when I got hired.

ExperimentalAB 05-20-2007 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 168643)
I would also like to add something ExperimentalAB, you might get attacked by some people who work for some less desirable regionals. They do this because they are jelious of the success of skywest and the fact that at the end of the year we make more.

That is spectacular - When I got on with Trans States, many of my "friends" were jealous enough to "wish me luck getting furloughed"...with friends like those who needs enemies, right??

BTW, how many guys do you know in class at SKW with less than 1000TT? (prior 121 perhaps?)

ExperimentalAB 05-20-2007 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 168630)
It's part of how they offset your training cost. Bottom line, first year pay SUX EVERYWHERE!

Yep...I think I have just broken that barrier...shattered it, in fact: My "Job" is no longer that. I fly Jets as a HOBBY LoL. Can't wait to show the tax-lady the W-2 of an Airline Pilot at the end of the year ;-)

duvie 05-20-2007 08:38 PM

Pride comes before the fall gentleman. I'm happy and grateful to be here (SKW), but so were the pilots of Comair and Air Whiskey. The industry is quite dynamic and has a way of changing rapidly.

Bascuela 05-20-2007 11:17 PM

I'm still going back and forth with bring my car out. Let me ask you guys this: Was there ever a time where you were in a tight spot becuase you DID NOT have your car while in training. Thanks again.

JetJock16 05-21-2007 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by Bascuela (Post 168708)
I'm still going back and forth with bring my car out. Let me ask you guys this: Was there ever a time where you were in a tight spot becuase you DID NOT have your car while in training. Thanks again.

No, but having a car at training made things much easier. You didn't have to eat from the Roach Coach everyday, didn't have to wait for the van, dinner wasn't restricted to walking distance, etc. If you can afford it then I'd do it, after all you are spending 6-8 weeks in SLC.

duvie 05-21-2007 05:10 AM

Candlewood provides transportation to the grocery store twice a week. I eat in for every meal and bring lunch to the training center. Like JJ16 said it would be nice but I'm gettin along just fine. I'm from Florida though, so I didn't have much choice.

LITTLEa905 05-21-2007 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 168484)
:eek:

Maybe I'll transition to the bro just to get a month off.

Actually, I'm in the RJ! Really weird how some people wait a month and others wait a week.


Originally Posted by Bascuela (Post 168521)
yeah thats what i've heard too, about 4-5 weeks delay from check to IOE? I'm assuming this is still "training pay"?

Yup, I think so... I'll know for sure when I get paid tomorrow.

POPA 05-21-2007 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 168643)
I would also like to add something ExperimentalAB, you might get attacked by some people who work for some less desirable regionals. They do this because they are jelious of the success of skywest and the fact that at the end of the year we make more.

Maybe it's not jealousy so much as just growing tired of your constant declarations that your employer is "perfect" and theirs "sucks."


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