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stewie 05-22-2007 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by xpigx (Post 169584)
No kidding.

I have a wife and 4 girls under age 10. We are living off of 2000 a month

400 - rent
325 - car
300 - gas
300 - electricity
500 - necessities (food, pampers, liquor, cigarettes :D)
200 - extra stuff.

We work for a school district, so our retirement is automatically taken out.

I agree with bla bla bla. Any of us can buy 12 packs of ramen a day for a family of 6. Two healthy ramen meals a day costing $200 a month(not including drink) unless it's water every single day... $700 for everything besides car, utilities, and rent... give me a break! That's $20 a day for gods sake, 6 people??? $1 per meal per family member...with nothing else to spare... for some reason I don't think your telling the complete truth.?.?

flyerNy 05-23-2007 12:12 AM

im still not convinced 100k is getting by.
Today the average person pays a lot for the lifestyle we have...
Most people don't eat a home anymore which costs more,
Most people now travel all the time (for fun) which costs more,
Most people now get to live where they want and not where they have to work which costs more,
Most people now lease or buy new cars every few years,
Most people now own more than one car,
Most people buy what they want when they want,
Most people now pay for the lawn to get mowed,
Most people don't know how to fix anything they own anymore,
it all adds up.

Point is, you can save a lot of money if you really wanted to. Sure life is not cheap but 100k is a good amount of money and you are doing pretty darn good. I don't know what you guys think people make? On Long Island NY, one of the most expensive areas, the average HOUSEHOLD income is about 80k. Check it out on the gov websites.

Truth is people are spending a lot more for the better lifestyle they don't realize they have over families 30+ years ago.

BoilerUP 05-23-2007 03:44 AM


Originally Posted by bla bla bla (Post 169565)
The correct answer is 100k is chump change! News flash you have to finance your retirement nowadays. So out of the 100k that you won’t make, 30k will go to the gov as income tax, now you have 70k. To fund your retirement you need to contribute the max of 15k to your 401k, now you have 55k. 55/12= 4583 per month so, a avg house will run you about 2000(assuming you want to live in a relatively safe area) of your 4583, now you have 2583, figure about 500 for gas, 200 for car insurance, 500 for car payments, 200 for utilities, 150 for cell phones, 500 for food, student loans 300, and 250 on whatever else. Now you are out of money until next month.

My father-in-law said his gas bill was 2800 dollars last month alone. He said he needs at least 10k a month just to get by, and he is pretty tight with his cash and lives in a modest house and drives avg vehicles.

G-D man where the fark do you live? You and your family seriously need to get on a Dave Ramsey diet because unless you are in the NE or on the left coast those numbers seem awfully, awfully high.


My point is, that with a family 100k is just getting by.
Depending on where you are, you can get by on 100k (or gasp! - less) just fine. Doesn't mean we as pilots should be content with that level of compensation...but it also doesn't mean we should be spending just as much as we are earning.

I think you're expenses are whack, but I wish more at Skywest would have your attitude toward fighting for higher compensation.

BoilerUP 05-23-2007 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by flyerNy (Post 169624)
Truth is people are spending a lot more for the better lifestyle they don't realize they have over families 30+ years ago.

Quoted for truth; many folks these days cannot accept any lower standard of living than what they know and are going broke (or worse) in a feeble attempt to maintain that lifestyle.

xpigx 05-23-2007 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by stewie (Post 169599)
I agree with bla bla bla. Any of us can buy 12 packs of ramen a day for a family of 6. Two healthy ramen meals a day costing $200 a month(not including drink) unless it's water every single day... $700 for everything besides car, utilities, and rent... give me a break! That's $20 a day for gods sake, 6 people??? $1 per meal per family member...with nothing else to spare... for some reason I don't think your telling the complete truth.?.?


Actually, we do eat some Ramen . . . mostly me though. My family as a whole eat good meals, and go out to eat at least once a week. Sometimes my checks are a bit more, so we have a bit more extra money.

My 3 year old, my wife, and I eat: Breakfast - a taco and drink
Lunch - Sandwiches (ham and cheese, grilled cheese, BLT, PB&J), chips, and a drink
Dinner - An item from the meat, vegetable, starch, and grain foodgroups, and a drink.

My oldest is 9, and second oldest is 4. Breakfast - At school
Lunch - At school
After school snack - Yogurt, fruit, sometimes cookies or brownies
Dinner same as the rest of the family

My 10 month old eats baby food and formula.

If you know how to spend your money, budget, and look for deals, you can do it.

So call me a liar. Whatever.

My wife and I make $13.05 an hour at a base of 20 hours per week as school bus drivers. I get a bit more because I take field trips and she does not. So I usually have an extra 10-20 hours a month. It comes out to a bit over $2000 per month before taxes. After taxes, it is just over $2000.

DO you wanna see a copy of my last pay stub? lol

IronWalt 05-23-2007 03:01 PM

PAYYYY FRIGGEN THETIC that some of you out there would foot 40K plus for your flight credentials and then subject your family, including young children, to malnutrition, future health problems and stress all because you are going to chase airplanes to the poor house on 2000 a month.

Rest assured that I definatly do not want someone that stupid making decisions for my family when they ride in the back of your RJ.

Short Bus Drive 05-23-2007 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by IronWalt (Post 169919)
PAYYYY FRIGGEN THETIC that some of you out there would foot 40K plus for your flight credentials and then subject your family, including young children, to malnutrition, future health problems and stress all because you are going to chase airplanes to the poor house on 2000 a month.

Rest assured that I definatly do not want someone that stupid making decisions for my family when they ride in the back of your RJ.


Re-read his post.. He is an ACTUAL, REAL Bus driver. No airplanes.

Want to know where he lives though to get by on that.

Timmay 05-23-2007 04:16 PM

I'm beginning to think my 8 month-old is eating the best out of our family of four...that formula is friggin' expensive!!

xpigx 05-23-2007 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 169941)
Re-read his post.. He is an ACTUAL, REAL Bus driver. No airplanes.

Want to know where he lives though to get by on that.

Where I live

ANd that is correct.

I am a REAL SCHOOL BUS DRIVER. I just started my PPL. I have flown 4 hours.


Originally Posted by Timmay (Post 169950)
I'm beginning to think my 8 month-old is eating the best out of our family of four...that formula is friggin' expensive!!

+1

flyerNy 05-23-2007 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 169641)
Quoted for truth; many folks these days cannot accept any lower standard of living than what they know and are going broke (or worse) in a feeble attempt to maintain that lifestyle.

I agree. Never have I seen so many people driving status mobiles. I could afford a status mobile but I like putting my money in the bank and not having to mortgage one.


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