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Originally Posted by Dstblj52
(Post 3097300)
Not at all sure about this, I think a lot of business travel is forced by the tragedy of the commons everyone would be better of if they all made their presentations on zoom and relied more on phone calls and emails but individually the person going to the client shacking hands and taking them out for drinks afterward or who sends a few troubleshooters over in person after you complain has a huge advantage at least with the current crowd in charge of most large companies.
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Originally Posted by Dstblj52
(Post 3097300)
Not at all sure about this, I think a lot of business travel is forced by the tragedy of the commons everyone would be better of if they all made their presentations on zoom and relied more on phone calls and emails but individually the person going to the client shacking hands and taking them out for drinks afterward or who sends a few troubleshooters over in person after you complain has a huge advantage at least with the current crowd in charge of most large companies.
will be more sustainable for a longer period of time. At the in the same breath, all it’ll take is one zoom call to get hacked or leaked and some intellectual property or market strategy to get into the public and that’ll be the end of it. I say the same thing about single pilot or pilotless operations on a large scale. Put one into the dirt and it’s over, look at the Max. |
Originally Posted by captande
(Post 3097403)
I think for a lot of mid tier business, zoom
will be more sustainable for a longer period of time. At the in the same breath, all it’ll take is one zoom call to get hacked or leaked and some intellectual property or market strategy to get into the public and that’ll be the end of it. I say the same thing about single pilot or pilotless operations on a large scale. Put one into the dirt and it’s over, look at the Max. |
Originally Posted by OpMidClimax
(Post 3097405)
One company i work for does not use zoom but had their own program made for that reason. They have invested huge amounts of money to be a virtual company now and the future. They are a fortune 500 company.
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Originally Posted by point80
(Post 3097427)
agreed... many big corporations do not use zoom. Have closed circuit system.
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Originally Posted by captande
(Post 3097443)
Thats pretty interesting, I didn’t know that. Regardless I’ll agree that some won’t come back to business travel on the same scale but nothing seals a deal like a handshake. It’ll take time but it’ll come back. We’re still in for some turbulence for sure.
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I said this somewhere else but think it needs saying here. It appears people are comparing companies using zoom (or their own platforms) so employees don't need to come to the office daily with people that travel for business. While there is some overlap in motive and benefit here for sure, those two things really are very different.
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To be clear, many business meetings and events done which required travel via airline, have moved to Zoom and other video conference methods.
NBAA, OshKosh, the Marine Corps Marathon, New York Auto Show, Academy Awards, and numerous graduation ceremonies at military basic training bases have been cancelled or postponed due to COVID. corporate america cannot sit idle, business must continue, the wheels most keep rolling. Zoom etc is an interim solution to palms to flesh and wine-dine clients. IF this becomes a permanent solution is yet to be seen. “Face-to-face contact and visibility is important. That said, no one’s going anywhere,” said Peter Bragdon, Columbia’s chief administrative officer. |
Y’all are all missing the boat with “Zoom can’t replace XYZ” arguments. Revenue is down about 85% year over year. That will bankrupt every airline eventually. If demand comes back fast enough, many will survive.
The key issue is how fast demand returns. The greatest challenge to airlines will be things that slow the rate of rise in revenue. Online meetings will do just that |
Originally Posted by captande
(Post 3097403)
At the in the same breath, all it’ll take is one zoom call to get hacked or leaked and some intellectual property or market strategy to get into the public and that’ll be the end of it.
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