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bla bla bla 05-22-2007 06:36 PM

Mesa's new interview
 
Just got a call from one of my past students and good friend. One of his instructors got a job offer at mesa, he said the interview was one on one, and consisted of one task, to read back an atc clearance! What a joke.

bla bla bla 05-22-2007 07:34 PM

I should add his times are 800 and 55ish.

stewie 05-22-2007 07:58 PM

How sad, I can't believe people still consider going to that place. It is a death wish with everyone else in the industry. Not that any other regional is much better... but when a union proposes and gets a contract voted through that allows $40 an hour for a year 8-20 turboprop captain doesn't get any respect from me! I'm sorry for you captains that have to fly with the 250 hour wonders that would fly Mesa's airplanes for nothing just to log the time...

newgrad411 05-22-2007 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by bla bla bla (Post 169541)
Just got a call from one of my past students and good friend. One of his instructors got a job offer at mesa, he said the interview was one on one, and consisted of one task, to read back an atc clearance! What a joke.

Do you honestly believe that?

I know it isn't rocket science (getting a job), but for an airline that has such an intense training program for my airframe, that seems a little preposterous.

the King 05-22-2007 10:59 PM

I know a couple of people who went there who I wouldn't fly with. I hope I don't have to in the future. I'd be sorely tempted to stay at the airport that day. They had a very bad reputation and we wouldn't hire them as instructors. You know where they went? Mesa's Pay-to-Fly program. I wouldn't be surprised, just disappointed.

CRJ1000 05-22-2007 11:09 PM

open house
 
so I guess Mesa is running open house where they are hiring guys who don't even have a ME rating. I think the interview went something like this:
"we know all that time as a CIF doing left (and right) hand turns will make you a great FO for our CRJ-900 down to mexico!!!
just call us when you get you ME and we will give you a class date...
O'h...what...you fluncked your ME...thats OK...just call us when you have a white copy...not pink."
AMAZING!!!!

bla bla bla 05-23-2007 04:34 PM

It’s true. I would not have believed that they sleep in the plane either, but I flew with a fa that worked for them and said she has done it.

rickair7777 05-23-2007 05:56 PM

It's true, they basically just do a pulse check nowadays. That must really blow for the folks who donated two years of their lives and $90K to attend ornstien's pilot school...just to get the same job that people can get off the street with even FEWER qualifications. Ouch.

Ellen 05-28-2007 04:06 PM

MESA PILOT ATTRITION!!! (Sinking Ship)
 
Mesa Airlines abandons fourteen cities in May, pilot attrition cited as reason.

The winds have shifted and Jonathan Ornstein's "scorched Earth tactics" in Hawaii and across the globe have finally turned back against him. The fire is now burning uncontrollably close to Phoenix.

Visalia, California Airport manager Mario Cifuentes blamed several of Mesa's recent delays on a lack of pilots. Mario Cifuentes says about Mesa, "there weren't a whole lot of pilots available".

With todays announcement of Cedar City, Utah, this makes FOURTEEN cities in the past month Mesa Airlines is abandoning. Nine of the cities being abandoned were announced in the past FOUR DAYS.

Cedar City, Utah

Visalia, California

Merced, California

Ely, Nevada

Moab and Vernal, Utah

Roswell, New Mexico

Alamogordo, New Mexico

Farmington, New Mexico

On May 3rd Mesa announced Air Midwest would terminate service to the cities of DuBois, Franklin/Oil City and Lancaster, Pennsylvania / Hagerstown, Maryland / Greenbrier/White Sulphur Springs/Lewisburg, West Virginia and Athens, Georgia.

The DOT filed an Order Prohibiting Termination of Service and Requesting Proposals.

While every one of these cities is a community with families and businesses that are being affected one way or the other; While every one of these cites has their story with Mesa Airlines; Only one city is Mesa's true Hometown.

Farmington, New Mexico. This would be comparable to Hawaiian pulling out of Honolulu, or united abandoning Chicago.

At one time Air Midwest was the premier regional to be employed by. It is saddening to watch Mesa sacrifice this once proud airline in a vein attempt to solve their spiraling pilot attrition problem.

http://mesalies.blogspot.com/

XtremeF150 06-04-2007 12:27 AM


Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 172235)
Mesa Airlines abandons fourteen cities in May, pilot attrition cited as reason.

The winds have shifted and Jonathan Ornstein's "scorched Earth tactics" in Hawaii and across the globe have finally turned back against him. The fire is now burning uncontrollably close to Phoenix.

Visalia, California Airport manager Mario Cifuentes blamed several of Mesa's recent delays on a lack of pilots. Mario Cifuentes says about Mesa, "there weren't a whole lot of pilots available".

With todays announcement of Cedar City, Utah, this makes FOURTEEN cities in the past month Mesa Airlines is abandoning. Nine of the cities being abandoned were announced in the past FOUR DAYS.

Cedar City, Utah

Visalia, California

Merced, California

Ely, Nevada

Moab and Vernal, Utah

Roswell, New Mexico

Alamogordo, New Mexico

Farmington, New Mexico

On May 3rd Mesa announced Air Midwest would terminate service to the cities of DuBois, Franklin/Oil City and Lancaster, Pennsylvania / Hagerstown, Maryland / Greenbrier/White Sulphur Springs/Lewisburg, West Virginia and Athens, Georgia.

The DOT filed an Order Prohibiting Termination of Service and Requesting Proposals.

While every one of these cities is a community with families and businesses that are being affected one way or the other; While every one of these cites has their story with Mesa Airlines; Only one city is Mesa's true Hometown.

Farmington, New Mexico. This would be comparable to Hawaiian pulling out of Honolulu, or united abandoning Chicago.

At one time Air Midwest was the premier regional to be employed by. It is saddening to watch Mesa sacrifice this once proud airline in a vein attempt to solve their spiraling pilot attrition problem.

http://mesalies.blogspot.com/

Yeah, all that came out from the union already as well. I know we are planning on closing HOB in the next 30 days and VIS and CDC within 90 days. AHN will be closing by the end of the summer. We haven't hired any new FO's in like 3 months even though we are almost completely out of RSV's in the right seat. I really think they intend to restaff with the base closure's.
Of course Mesa actually managed to hire 90 ppl into the ERJ/CRJ this month....all I can say is look forward to that 3 - 5 year upgrade....just to sit RSV again under one of the worst contracts in the history of aviation.....Oh and on the positive note I didn't get called out today :rolleyes:

newgrad411 06-04-2007 02:34 PM

Hired in Feb, held a hard line(no reserve) for the past 2 bids. Fly a three day starting saturday and then off until the 20th.

Picked up open time over the weekend and got a 4 day @ double rate with overnights in Vail, Durango, and Jackson Hole. Will be volunteering on my week off.

Guess the experience varies by the person and airframe, but so far this is pretty enjoyable.

Baronpilot 06-04-2007 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by bla bla bla (Post 169541)
Just got a call from one of my past students and good friend. One of his instructors got a job offer at mesa, he said the interview was one on one, and consisted of one task, to read back an atc clearance! What a joke.

Just about anyone can do that. Scary...........

XtremeF150 06-04-2007 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by newgrad411 (Post 175298)
Hired in Feb, held a hard line(no reserve) for the past 2 bids. Fly a three day starting saturday and then off until the 20th.

Picked up open time over the weekend and got a 4 day @ double rate with overnights in Vail, Durango, and Jackson Hole. Will be volunteering on my week off.

Guess the experience varies by the person and airframe, but so far this is pretty enjoyable.

Well, I can say we have different interest because I like to go home and see my wife, family, and friends. If your single or want to lose all the for mentioned then it might be great for me too. When your only getting 8-10 days off a bid I can't imagine picking up extra trips. I guess when I only had 1000 hours though I was doing the same thing...just not at the airlines. As far as holding hard lines goes, most of the junior line holders have way worse schedules than the RSV's at AMW. Hence the reason that about a third of our RSV CA's could hold a line on the CRJ....note I didn't say the 1900. They choose not to go over to Mesa because it isn't very smart to jump from the pot to the water.
However, I am glad someone likes it because that leaves more quality jobs for those of us that enjoy the time hanging out with family and partying with friends....I need my vacation's ;)

Outlaw2097 06-04-2007 05:49 PM

ive heard it before...i guess if you have a pulse and some sort of paper from the faa, mesa will take you on..

Slice 06-06-2007 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Outlaw2097 (Post 175395)
ive heard it before...i guess if you have a pulse and some sort of paper from the faa, mesa will take you on..

True...so how long have you been there?:rolleyes:


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