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Old 07-02-2020, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sflpilot View Post
At a bare minimum no one should be getting an aviation degree at this point any longer. Having a solid back up plan for a different career is essential.
I'll go a step further: treat this "career" like a part-time gig and you'll likely sleep better at night.
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Old 07-02-2020, 04:29 PM
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1. Always pack a bag of beef jerky or something stinky to eat. It’s a great way to get back at that micromanager sitting next to you.

2. Take note of where the free hotel breakfast meals are and keep your uniform handy in base. When on reserve and at the crash pad, it never hurts to grab a free meal in on your way into work.

3. Grab all the free toilet paper, shampoo, towels, and bar soap you can. They go for premium in bulk on eBay.


That’s about it. Please refrain from saying “blocked” on the radio. That’s for envoy guys only.
#2 got a couple of OO guys fired a few years back. Don't do it.
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Old 07-02-2020, 04:32 PM
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From 2000 to 9/11 times were good. Opportunities seemed to be increasing, and the future was bright.

And now our more recent career folks have experienced an event that changes everything.

If I could add something to this topic it would be to pay attention to your coworkers. There have been several suicides in my company (WN) in many work groups, flight crews included.

Nobody knows how long this will drag out—but if you are having a hard time or know someone who is, please get help. Don't be the warrior pilot that has to tough out everything. Turn off the news, put down the social media.

It may just take a smile or a phone call to change a life, or save one.
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Old 07-02-2020, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina View Post
#2 got a couple of OO guys fired a few years back. Don't do it.
Good point. Theft and dishonesty will get you immediately fired at most airlines.
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Old 07-02-2020, 07:39 PM
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#2 got a couple of OO guys fired a few years back. Don't do it.

you have to admit, that was some funny ****. I was about 5 beers deep when I wrote that.
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Old 07-02-2020, 07:42 PM
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Preach. I swear, my wife would jump off a cliff if her friends were doing it...
Don’t get married. Problem solved
that way you can do what the eff you want
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Old 07-02-2020, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by propellere View Post
That’s about it. Please refrain from saying “blocked” on the radio. That’s for envoy guys only.
I just go Meeow! 😁
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Old 07-02-2020, 08:38 PM
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you have to admit, that was some funny ****. I was about 5 beers deep when I wrote that.

ipa’s I’m guessing! Not miller lights.
Nice.

If you love to fly, you don’t have to do 121! I’m here (again) because my wife makes coin so I had nothing to lose. No freaking way I do this as breadwinner. I feel terrible for the young guys who got married, wife quit her gig, and a kiddo came along. God forbid they bought a house. What could go wrong? Besides terrorism. Consolidation. Age 65. Lehman Brothers. Virus. Bankruptcy. If you are that guy, blue-collar airline pilots survive well and prosper. Running a track hoe or skiddy in the lean times and landing a jet in the fat is an awesome life.
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Old 07-03-2020, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 123494 View Post
I'll go a step further: treat this "career" like a part-time gig and you'll likely sleep better at night.
Is it possible to do this in normal- non pilot shortage- times?

Saying I don't really care about money would it be possible to do a two day trips and some day trips each month and drop the rest?
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:12 AM
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Saying I don't really care about money would it be possible to do a two day trips and some day trips each month and drop the rest?
Depends on who you work for. It can be done at a few majors, but most have some minimum amount that you credit (like 55-6 hours). SWA is one, maybe also NK?

I don't know if he was saying "don't work much", maybe he meant treat it like a temp gig. Be pretty frugal (taking into account other income sources, spouse, etc) until you get to a major.

Then stay frugal and start investing (in whatever makes sense to you). A few years later you'll have a big enough nest egg to not have to worry about getting a couple-three years off due to furlough (or medical). Then your only likely career threat is long-term medical issues, hopefully mitigated by a decent pilot loss-of-medical.

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