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Killer51883 05-26-2007 06:24 AM

Chances of getting the 170 at Republic
 
I am thinking of applying to Republic and getting based out of my home town of PIT. I was wondering if anyone knew what the chance of getting that would be as a new hire. Also what are there travel benefits like, QOL, work rules, and such? I know the upgrade is in the 2-3 year range but that’s about it. If any one can help me out that would be great.

s10an 05-26-2007 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 171338)
I am thinking of applying to Republic and getting based out of my home town of PIT. I was wondering if anyone knew what the chance of getting that would be as a new hire. Also what are there travel benefits like, QOL, work rules, and such? I know the upgrade is in the 2-3 year range but that’s about it. If any one can help me out that would be great.

I've been wondering about the same thing.... Anyone got info???

crimson tide 05-26-2007 08:23 AM

It's all luck. My guess is interview well, have prior turbine time, and have the right timing. They liked that I have PIC turbine and a type rating. Thats pretty much how I got it. I was surprised they never asked me about bases or aircraft preference at my interview. FWIW I fly 135 cargo and can't market my time to major players, but RAH is a great company and is in my hometown so everybody wins.

Billy32 05-26-2007 11:09 AM

I am kinda in the same boat Crimson. I have 121 turbine PIC, but it is a turboprop and I have the stink of a freight pilot. I have talked to the big guys and they seemed to be real impressed with the guys who have jet and FMS time. It would be a step back, but I am considering RAH. I just don't know if I can stomach becoming an FO again, at the regional pay rates. I am approaching 1000 hours and if no one bites I am going to try and get on with Republic. I don't know how long the hiring spree is going to last, but I don't want to spend the next 8 years flying all night waiting on the next one. Let me know how you like it.

Killer51883 05-26-2007 01:34 PM

If you go into the republic interview having already made it through a 121 training program and over 100 hours of 121 turboprop time does that help you get into the 170, or is it still just the random luck of the draw.

freezingflyboy 05-26-2007 05:37 PM

Why do you guys care so much what airplane you get on at RAH? They all pay the same as an FO (crap). Is it just because of the bases?

Dark Knight 05-26-2007 06:24 PM

anyone know how far you have to live from domicile?

AV8ER 05-26-2007 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Billy32 (Post 171483)
I am kinda in the same boat Crimson. I have 121 turbine PIC, but it is a turboprop and I have the stink of a freight pilot. I have talked to the big guys and they seemed to be real impressed with the guys who have jet and FMS time. It would be a step back, but I am considering RAH. I just don't know if I can stomach becoming an FO again, at the regional pay rates. I am approaching 1000 hours and if no one bites I am going to try and get on with Republic. I don't know how long the hiring spree is going to last, but I don't want to spend the next 8 years flying all night waiting on the next one. Let me know how you like it.

How do you have 121 PIC turbine if you're only approaching 1000 hours?

Sanchez 05-26-2007 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by AV8ER (Post 171688)
How do you have 121 PIC turbine if you're only approaching 1000 hours?

You're kidding? Right?

Companies hiring at 500 and 100, and you're asking how anyone has 121 PIC turbine?

Killer51883 05-26-2007 07:20 PM

Flyboy right now im making the same "crap pay" that everyone else and there mother is making. Thats how the 121 industry is. If I wanted to make more, i would go be some ones b!tch in a 135 outfit, but i am not going to be on call 24/7/365. As far as the airplane thats cause thats the only plane i know of (some one correct me if im wrong) that they have based in PIT. If i can get based in my home town for the same pay that im getting on a 8 to 24 hour commute home why not. You drive to work, not fly on several differnt airplanes to get to work.

Billy32 05-26-2007 11:43 PM

AV8ER, what I mean is that I am approaching the 1000 PIC 121. I have over 4000 total. I know it is rediculous to be considering a regional, but I do not want to get stuck where I am when the music stops. I am going to hold out for another year or so and keep updating, but if I miss this hiring cycle I do not want to fly night freight until the next one.

SharkyBN584 05-27-2007 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 171527)
If you go into the republic interview having already made it through a 121 training program and over 100 hours of 121 turboprop time does that help you get into the 170, or is it still just the random luck of the draw.

My experience - completely luck of the draw. I'm a 145 driver but was orginially offered the 170 for Republic (no prior 121, no turbine...nothing more than a CFI). As far as PIT is concerned, the Republic certificate is the one getting all the growth right now, but do a search for "US Airways in Pittsburgh" on yahoo and that could shoot your dreams down a little. However, getting on to the Republic Certificate and maybe, hopefully, one day finding your way back to PIT is a possibility. Travel Bennies = you get whatever codeshare your base flies for (i.e. Republic in PIT only gets US Air, Republic in DEN only gets Frontier).

Killer51883 05-27-2007 05:09 AM

I know US Air is cutting flights to and from pittsburgh. Does that include their express flights and how is that going to affect the PIT base there?

iflyjets4food 05-27-2007 05:20 AM

I'd call the possibility of getting the 170 probable, but not necessarily likely. We have 3 types, 3 certificates, and 4 different combination possibilities: CHQ 145, CHQ CRJ, RP 170, and SA 170. We aren't getting new 145s, so they just hire into that airplane to fill the vacancies by upgrades and attrition. The CRJ is new, and thus they hire a lot for it. The SA 170 isn't a growing spot, it's much like the 145. The RP 170 is growing, and thus they hire a lot for it. There are your details. When you upgrade, you can hold out for whatever airframe you like. Current upgrade is about 2 years. You have to want to be here, because you may not initially get the airplane you like. Don't come here just to get the 170. As it sounds from recent US Airways press releases, PIT may not even be a focus city too much longer, and I'd say it would be hard for us to keep it a base after something like that.

All that said, I think this is a great place to be. We have a chance with the upcoming contract negotiations to set the bar for everyone else to follow. I like to believe it will happen. Overall, if you get caught up in all the little crap, everywhere will suck for you. If you just come to work and do your job, this is a great place to be.

FlynChick 05-27-2007 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 171338)
I am thinking of applying to Republic and getting based out of my home town of PIT. I was wondering if anyone knew what the chance of getting that would be as a new hire. Also what are there travel benefits like, QOL, work rules, and such? I know the upgrade is in the 2-3 year range but that’s about it. If any one can help me out that would be great.

Not sure if you were aware, but when you go for the interview in Indy, Republic AIRWAYS already know which certificate and which a/c they need pilots for at that particular time. SO! If you want PIT, the only certificate that is based there is the Republic AIRLINES 170's. So.... if you got another plane or another certificate (like Shuttle America or Chautauqua) then PIT is not a choice. Once you are hired under a certficate there is no lateral movement between certificates until CA upgrade or an act of God (which still is doubtful). So.... the chances of you getting Republic and the 170 would be based on their need, and that changes weekly. Just hope for Republic Airlines, and then request to switch bases if you don't get it out of training.... BUT even if you get another a/c or another certificate, since it IS a republic base, it is commutable.

Work rules..... right now we're undergoing contract negotiations so they should increase and get better. Right now I would say our contract is average... not as great as some, but a HELLA lot better than others. But with 1900+ pilots, we're screaming to the union about better work rules.

As for travel bennies, it depends on who you work for..... meaning, whatever aircraft you have and city you are based in, the airline that primarily resides in that city, you will fall under THEIR benefits... so: PIT, PHL, DCA, etc are US Airways (since those bases are made for that airline), ATL, etc (Delta), Den (Frontier). So, depeneding on the airline you're under (and we have several that we fly for)........... that will depend on your benefits which are too varied to mention here.

Any other questions, PM me. Later!

cbire880 05-27-2007 02:36 PM

I was just hired for the RW 170. I have heard that there is a time requirement to get the 170 as well beyond the 1000/100. Someone who currently works for RAH can verify that. IIRC, its basically ATP minimums. Not sure why it exists, but I have heard of it from a CHQ pilot.

DMEarc 05-27-2007 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 171648)
Why do you guys care so much what airplane you get on at RAH? They all pay the same as an FO (crap). Is it just because of the bases?

Whew! Luckily for you- you work at XJT where they pay is amazing!

freezingflyboy 05-27-2007 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 171917)
Whew! Luckily for you- you work at XJT where they pay is amazing!


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 171705)
Flyboy right now im making the same "crap pay" that everyone else and there mother is making. Thats how the 121 industry is. If I wanted to make more, i would go be some ones b!tch in a 135 outfit, but i am not going to be on call 24/7/365. As far as the airplane thats cause thats the only plane i know of (some one correct me if im wrong) that they have based in PIT. If i can get based in my home town for the same pay that im getting on a 8 to 24 hour commute home why not. You drive to work, not fly on several differnt airplanes to get to work.

Erm:rolleyes: , I know you guys hate us Jetstinkers, especially the ones who are proud to work here, but I was referring to the fact that RAH pays their FOs the same no matter what airframe you are on. I didn't mean ALL regional FOs (although we really are all paid crap). My question was in regards to the motive for wanting a specific aircraft at that specific carrier (RAH). If the poster wants the 170 because thats all that they base in PIT, then ok that makes sense. But if they want the 170 because it looks like a miniature 737 well then thats another issue.

Killer51883 05-27-2007 05:02 PM

I would fly a beech 1900, 747, or a cessna 172, if that meant i could pay the bills and be based in my home town of Pittsburgh. Thats all i care about. The commute to sju is becoming a bit of a hassle

BeaglePilot 05-27-2007 05:18 PM

Hey killer, nice avatar! Thats me in the right seat.

freezingflyboy 05-27-2007 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 171944)
I would fly a beech 1900, 747, or a cessna 172, if that meant i could pay the bills and be based in my home town of Pittsburgh. Thats all i care about. The commute to sju is becoming a bit of a hassle

152 dressed like Ronald McDonald for me if it meant $150,000/yr and home every night.

SharkyBN584 05-28-2007 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 171930)
Erm:rolleyes: , I know you guys hate us Jetstinkers, especially the ones who are proud to work here, but I was referring to the fact that RAH pays their FOs the same no matter what airframe you are on. I didn't mean ALL regional FOs (although we really are all paid crap). My question was in regards to the motive for wanting a specific aircraft at that specific carrier (RAH). If the poster wants the 170 because thats all that they base in PIT, then ok that makes sense. But if they want the 170 because it looks like a miniature 737 well then thats another issue.


Ya know...you never hear people complaining about American Eagle paying the same amount to FO's who fly the -700. Get over it.

av1atrx 05-28-2007 06:27 AM

I left Eagle last year for commuting issues. If you get hired at RAH you are in for a huge culture shock. Eagle is run like a major, and RAH is run just like it was when it was j-balls and had 200 pilots.

That being said, it was absolutely worth it to drive to work. I figured it couldn't hurt to go to the interview to see what would happen. I lucked out, but it was really a win-win for me since I already had a job.

How long before your seat-lock expires? If you stay at Eagle and jump over to the EMJ you could commute fairly easily to LGA or ORD out of PIT.

Sanchez 05-28-2007 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 172040)
Ya know...you never hear people complaining about American Eagle paying the same amount to FO's who fly the -700. Get over it.

So that's how you rationalize it? It's ok because some other carrier says it's ok! How about you guys grow some balls and demand higher pay for a bigger frame on your next contract, instead of just bending over and saying is ok, because it's ok at Eagle...WOW!

POPA 05-28-2007 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Sanchez (Post 172111)
So that's how you rationalize it? It's ok because some other carrier says it's ok! How about you guys grow some balls and demand higher pay for a bigger frame on your next contract, instead of just bending over and saying is ok, because it's ok at Eagle...WOW!

How can you possibly be so dense you've missed this point in the hundreds of other discussions we've already had about this? When pay rates for our 170/175s were negotiated, we didn't even have the planes! It was a completely different company back then.

Sanchez 05-28-2007 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 172126)
How can you possibly be so dense you've missed this point in the hundreds of other discussions we've already had about this? When pay rates for our 170/175s were negotiated, we didn't even have the planes! It was a completely different company back then.

Not the point, the point is your coworker seems to think is ok, because Eagle, Mesa, whatever are ok with it. How you got here is irrelevant, is what you're going to do to change that counts, and he seems to be just fine with it. I certainly hope that's not the attitude of the pilot group as a whole.

Killer51883 05-28-2007 04:33 PM

My seat lock is up in december so i have a while in sju or mia but they are just as tricky to get to from PIT. And the way Executive is run im sure republic is A LOT BETTER.

JoeyMeatballs 05-29-2007 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 171648)
Why do you guys care so much what airplane you get on at RAH? They all pay the same as an FO (crap). Is it just because of the bases?

Thank you................ I guess they feel it looks like a "real" airplane hehehe too bad they pay is a joke

Killer51883 05-29-2007 10:56 AM

It has nothing to do with the airplane. This move is all about the base. All regionals are with in the same scale as far as pay; its crap where ever you go. So you may as well be based some where that you can afford to live and dont have a two leg 12 hour plus commute to work. Yeah I might make a few thousand less a year and be back in training for the second time this year, but that is worth it for living in my home town and no longer commuting 2000 miles one way.


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