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10-15-2020, 02:30 PM

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Addendum to above:

https://thepointsguy.com/news/budget...ring-pandemic/

11-01-2020, 10:15 AM

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trip

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All UAX E175's are now blocked to 70 pax, plan your commute accordingly.

11-02-2020, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by trip

All UAX E175's are now blocked to 70 pax, plan your commute accordingly.

The planes aren’t full right now anyway. When one of the LOA’s termination triggers is met the seats will go back in, unless a deep furlough were to terminate the deal. Also, when the LOA terminates, the current scope restrictions will be terminated as well and we go back to the original language restricting UAX block to 120% with the look back. I did see that United had to reduce UAX block for November and increase United block to be compliant with the LOA scope restrictions.

11-03-2020, 04:57 AM

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I find it ironic that pulling seats out only ends up screwing over all the mainline commuters. Especially now that most flights I've flown are full or nearly full and what once was being flown by a mainline jet has been replaced by a regional jet.

11-03-2020, 05:04 AM

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Ya. They should have wrote in “seats may stay in and used by commuting pilots only”..

11-03-2020, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by amcnd

Ya. They should have wrote in “seats may stay in and used by commuting pilots only”..

What????Blasphemy. You can't possibly have a mainline pilot group and a regional pilot group working together for the benefit of all.

Your suggestion makes way to much sense and would require teamwork between unions, a trait that seems few and far between.

11-07-2020, 01:24 PM

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United’s new scope restrictions are not limited to the duration of the LOA. They are permanent changes, just like all other contractual gains that are part of the LOA. The only temporary parts are hour reductions.

11-07-2020, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JediCheese

I agree up to a point.

The only variable that I don't know about is when the slot program at several major airports resumes. With reduced traffic, it's cheaper to run a 50 seat flight on a route that you have no interest in flying than a 70 seater. Especially if you're using the 70 seaters on profitable routes.

Routes with no interest will be terminated.

11-07-2020, 02:02 PM

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even the 76 seaters to 70 seaters?

EDIT I see hedley’s post below

11-07-2020, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SystemB

You might want to read the LOA again. Additional UAX restrictions, rate protection, displacement cancellations, guaranteed COLA’s, and work reductions are temporary and only in effect while the LOA is active. Section L lists the permanent gains such as FC deadhead, improvements to reserve bidding, LTD increase, and pay raise. Scope isn’t under that section. When the LOA terminates, scope and the seat restrictions go back to the original language and only the listed permanent gains remain.