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j3gibbon 06-03-2007 07:23 AM

American Eagle information/interview
 
I see that American Eagle is having a job fair in Chicago in about 2 weeks and was wondering if it will be worth my time. I have 215tt and 51mult Eagle wants 800tt and 100mult. Being a fresh out of college person I thought it might be valuable to just get some interview experience (I'd be driving 3 hours to get to the interview), maybe? Anyone think I've got a chance at landing a job? Let me know what you think.

ExperimentalAB 06-03-2007 07:33 AM

Not a chance with those times LoL...but it's always a good idea to show your face. I went to a job-fair well under min's and got turned down for an interview. Home two days later and I had an interview invitation in the Inbox...Just show them your face and smile a lot!

JoeyMeatballs 06-03-2007 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by j3gibbon (Post 174690)
I see that American Eagle is having a job fair in Chicago in about 2 weeks and was wondering if it will be worth my time. I have 215tt and 51mult Eagle wants 800tt and 100mult. Being a fresh out of college person I thought it might be valuable to just get some interview experience (I'd be driving 3 hours to get to the interview), maybe? Anyone think I've got a chance at landing a job? Let me know what you think.

Do you even have your Commercial???????????

Pilotpip 06-03-2007 07:54 AM

You're not going to get the job but it couldn't hurt. I know a number of people that were granted interviews at various airlines/135 ops with low time and at the conclusion of the interview recieved a reply something like "we'd like you to join us...when you get more time".

Instruct for a year and learn how to fly. The jets will still be shiny if you do.

Flyby1206 06-03-2007 11:50 AM

You wont get a job interview, but like the others have said its worth going just to make connections and show your face. Depending on which college you went to, you might be able to get in with 400/100. Ask them about this when you go.

bobloblaw 06-03-2007 12:13 PM

There is no secret handshake or networking required to get hired by a regional these days. I would not go to the job fair because it could show that you are not intune with the requirements of the company you are seeking employment with. If the requirement is 800tt and 100 multi, than that is what it is. Unless you go to a college who has a bridge program with Eagle and lower tt time is accepted. Don't waste your or the recruiters time if you don't meet the requirement.

oldveedubs 06-03-2007 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by bobloblaw (Post 174794)
There is no secret handshake or networking required to get hired by a regional these days. I would not go to the job fair because it could show that you are not intune with the requirements of the company you are seeking employment with. If the requirement is 800tt and 100 multi, than that is what it is. Unless you go to a college who has a bridge program with Eagle and lower tt time is accepted. Don't waste your or the recruiters time if you don't meet the requirement.

I wonder how many pilots wouldn't have jobs if they took your advice. How many people have gotten hired below mins here? Any takers? Using your logic...none.

bobloblaw 06-03-2007 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by oldveedubs (Post 174856)
I wonder how many pilots wouldn't have jobs if they took your advice. How many people have gotten hired below mins here? Any takers? Using your logic...none.

I work for Eagle and I can tell you that you won't work here unless you meet the mins of 800tt and 100 multi, or the mins for the bridge programs. It isn't a popularity contest otherwise, I wouldn't have gotten hired. To take it one step farther lets say you attended a job fair for Eagle in Chicago and you spoke to a recruiter. You didn't meet the mins then, hence you didn't get hired in Chicago. You attend an Eagle job fair two weeks later in ??? Michigan and you speek to the same recruiter. Is he going to hire you now even though you still don't meet the mins and he remembers you from Chicago...NO. Thats not to say that he won't remember you six months from now having now the mins to get hired. Lets be realistic and leave the dreaming to those who don't know better...

Flyboydan 06-03-2007 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 174692)
Do you even have your Commercial???????????

Yeah no kidding......

oldveedubs 06-03-2007 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by bobloblaw (Post 174864)
I work for Eagle and I can tell you that you won't work here unless you meet the mins of 800tt and 100 multi, or the mins for the bridge programs. It isn't a popularity contest otherwise, I wouldn't have gotten hired. To take it one step farther lets say you attended a job fair for Eagle in Chicago and you spoke to a recruiter. You didn't meet the mins then, hence you didn't get hired in Chicago. You attend an Eagle job fair two weeks later in ??? Michigan and you speek to the same recruiter. Is he going to hire you now even though you still don't meet the mins and he remembers you from Chicago...NO. Thats not to say that he won't remember you six months from now having now the mins to get hired. Lets be realistic and leave the dreaming to those who don't know better...

Well your AA/AE attitude certainly shines brightly! There is no such thing as any other airline! I assume interns are people who fall into your "bridge program" comment.

TOPDOG 06-03-2007 04:05 PM

COMAIR will hire you if you have your commercial.

bobloblaw 06-03-2007 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by oldveedubs (Post 174870)
Well your AA/AE attitude certainly shines brightly! There is no such thing as any other airline! I assume interns are people who fall into your "bridge program" comment.

Did you get turned down by Eagle? I must be raining on your parade, or bursting your bubble. If you don't meet the mins, then instruct until you do have the mins. Nothing peeves a recruiter more than someone who shows up for a job fair not even close to the mins.

oldveedubs 06-03-2007 04:27 PM

You don't get it...ITS NOT ALL ABOUT EAGLE!!!! You telling someone that they shouldn't go to a job fair because they won't get hired below mins is erroneous. My comment regarded every other airline and their policy on minimums... everyone has some sort of special story about how they got their airline job.

Telling someone to not go to a job fair is not a waste of their time but yours. He realizes he has low time but why not go and see what a job fair is all about.

A recruiter who is upset about a pilot showing interest in their airline rather some other shouldn't be a recruiter! Maybe once he goes to the job fair he'll realize that Eagle isn't the place he wants to go and you'll be there even longer because of your poor attitude.

TXav8r13 06-03-2007 04:31 PM

Interns can get an interview at 500TT and 100Multi. Last time I checked.

bobloblaw 06-03-2007 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by oldveedubs (Post 174885)
You don't get it...ITS NOT ALL ABOUT EAGLE!!!! You telling someone that they shouldn't go to a job fair because they won't get hired below mins is erroneous. My comment regarded every other airline and their policy on minimums... everyone has some sort of special story about how they got their airline job.

Telling someone to not go to a job fair is not a waste of their time but yours. He realizes he has low time but why not go and see what a job fair is all about.

A recruiter who is upset about a pilot showing interest in their airline rather some other shouldn't be a recruiter! Maybe once he goes to the job fair he'll realize that Eagle isn't the place he wants to go and you'll be there even longer because of your poor attitude.

I DON'T GET IT? I NEVER SAID IT WAS ALL ABOUT EAGLE. I SAID GOING TO A JOB FAIR WHERE YOU STAND A ZERO (0) CHANCE OF GETTING HIRED IS WASTING HIS AND THE RECRUITERS TIME. HE IS BETTER OFF SAVING HIS GAS MONEY AND BUYING MORE FLIGHT TIME. A RECRUITER GETS PAID TO RECRUITE QUALIFIED PILOTS, NOT LOW TIME WANNABE'S. DID YOU EVER STOP TO THINK THAT THE APPLICATION WEBSITES MOST AIRLINES USE MASK THE APPLICATIONS WHO DO NOT MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FROM EVER BEING SEEN UNTIL THE MAGIC NUMBERS APPEAR IN THE BOXES. A JOB FAIR IS THE SAME THING. THE RECRUITER WILL BE NICE AND SAY COME BACK WHEN YOU HAVE THE TIME REQUIREMENTS MET, THUS WASTING THE RECRUITERS TIME AND THE MISGUIDED LOWTIME HOPEFULL PILOT. I HOPE I SPELLED IT OUT SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT.

oldveedubs 06-03-2007 05:17 PM

your ignorance is amazing. you talk about me having a bad experience but you sure seem adamant about something that is undoubtedly false. published minimums are just that...published. eagle may be stricter than others but I know of people who have gotten hired with less than that at eagle and most of the time at other carriers with lower than published mins.

The recruiters job is to serve as an interface between pilots and a company...they deal with those who are interested and those who are qualified. They are looking for those who are interested and qualified. Spending a few hours at a job fair is experience you can't get in the cockpit in the airplane because you saved money on gas.

Slow down, think about what you're saying for a minute, and realize that people start at different places. By discouraging people from going to these job fairs you are hindering your job security. Just because someone doesn't meet mins doesn't mean they can't learn.

you may stand no chance at getting hired at ups because you don't have the heavy intl experience, do you put the app in?

bobloblaw 06-04-2007 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by oldveedubs (Post 174909)
your ignorance is amazing. you talk about me having a bad experience but you sure seem adamant about something that is undoubtedly false. published minimums are just that...published. eagle may be stricter than others but I know of people who have gotten hired with less than that at eagle and most of the time at other carriers with lower than published mins.

The recruiters job is to serve as an interface between pilots and a company...they deal with those who are interested and those who are qualified. They are looking for those who are interested and qualified. Spending a few hours at a job fair is experience you can't get in the cockpit in the airplane because you saved money on gas.

Slow down, think about what you're saying for a minute, and realize that people start at different places. By discouraging people from going to these job fairs you are hindering your job security. Just because someone doesn't meet mins doesn't mean they can't learn.

you may stand no chance at getting hired at ups because you don't have the heavy intl experience, do you put the app in?

You want me to slow down and think about what I am saying! I highlighted the text in your reply. You said the same thing I have said. They are looking for qualified pilots. Qualified pilots is defined as meeting their minimums of total time, and any other relevant factors. Since you know a few people who have been hired at different airlines with less than the mins they are looking for why don't you find out what these pilots did to get the jobs and let the original poster know so he could do the same. You are bent on telling this guy that there is a secret way of getting hired with lower mins, clue him in so he can get a job with 250 hours and 50 mulit please.

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rickair7777 06-04-2007 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by bobloblaw (Post 175048)
You want me to slow down and think about what I am saying! I highlighted the text in your reply. You said the same thing I have said. They are looking for qualified pilots. Qualified pilots is defined as meeting their minimums of total time, and any other relevant factors. Since you know a few people who have been hired at different airlines with less than the mins they are looking for why don't you find out what these pilots did to get the jobs and let the original poster know so he could do the same. You are bent on telling this guy that there is a secret way of getting hired with lower mins, clue him in so he can get a job with 250 hours and 50 mulit please.

I got an interview at a job once even though I was below the published mins. I was in the ballpark though.

bobloblaw 06-04-2007 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by oldveedubs (Post 175106)


So what you are saying is that he shouldn't fly to get the experience which will bring him up to the min tt requirements some airlines set. He should wait and let the tt requirements come down to meet his experience.

oldveedubs 06-04-2007 07:15 AM

I'm done with this. You are proving my points without me saying anything. Have a good day.

bobloblaw 06-04-2007 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 175110)
I got an interview at a job once even though I was below the published mins. I was in the ballpark though.

Ballpark and 600 hours difference is two different things. Eagles requirements are still listed as 800tt and 100 multi, regardless of the heresay on a messege board.

bobloblaw 06-04-2007 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by oldveedubs (Post 175112)
I'm done with this. You are proving my points without me saying anything. Have a good day.

Your points have not been proven by me nor you. Ejecting now while your aircraft is onfire and out of control is an excellent choice. I hope your dreams of becoming a very lowtime airline pilot are reached, instead of being the wannabe you are now.

j3gibbon 06-04-2007 07:47 AM

thanks for the feedback!

TXav8r13 06-04-2007 10:08 AM

If there’s anything I have learned about Eagle it’s that they will not come down on their 100 hours Multi. I have read that they have come down on the total time but as far as the multi time their not budging


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