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rickair7777 03-03-2021 10:28 AM

Pilot Shortage: It's Baaaaaaack...
 
At least according to the media.

https://us.cnn.com/2021/03/02/perspe...mic/index.html

BoilerUP 03-03-2021 10:30 AM

The authors are consultants, one of which was an ACA pilot in the early 00s.

rickair7777 03-03-2021 10:56 AM

I think there's a case actually, at least overseas.

123494 03-03-2021 04:48 PM

I forgot that I put CNN on my blocked list of websites.

TransWorld 03-03-2021 05:50 PM

It forecasts a mild shortage, worldwide, by 2023. Maybe. Or more likely, in my opinion, a balance.

If forecasts a significant shortage, worldwide, by 2025. I can believe that.

rickair7777 03-03-2021 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by 123494 (Post 3202444)
I forgot that I put CNN on my blocked list of websites.

I've been looking at it in the last month. It's no longer all Trump, all the time. Took a four year break prior to that.

deadstick35 03-03-2021 05:56 PM

I was expectingto see Kit Darby’s name on that.

Joachim 03-04-2021 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3202203)
I think there's a case actually, at least overseas.

Why do you think? At least Europe has had a flood of BS airlines flying BS routes for BS prices. They are hit the hardest because of the shear amount of frivolous leisure-ULCC’s sitting idle. You think they will be short of pilots??

Cyio 03-04-2021 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3202177)

While I think they make some good points, one of the things they said didn't make sense. Perhaps I misread it, but my understanding of a furloughed pilot is that they get to retain their seniority when they return to duty. It felt like this article was saying just the opposite.

Regardless of that, I think if this summer turns out to be strong, we could certainly be facing some issues again. As the article said, "pilot engagement' is the ticket. If management would help us, we will help them. Give young pilots a valuable and useful flow formula so they have a meaningful chance of recouping the high costs of becoming a civil aviator.

If the airlines manage to do this, I think they can mitigate many of the issues this article talks about. More importantly, if the big 3 dont start finding ways to incentivize their regional pilots, they will quickly find them being scooped up by the others, much like is starting to happen with Frontier and Spirit.

THKooj 03-04-2021 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3202603)
While I think they make some good points, one of the things they said didn't make sense. Perhaps I misread it, but my understanding of a furloughed pilot is that they get to retain their seniority when they return to duty. It felt like this article was saying just the opposite.

Regardless of that, I think if this summer turns out to be strong, we could certainly be facing some issues again. As the article said, "pilot engagement' is the ticket. If management would help us, we will help them. Give young pilots a valuable and useful flow formula so they have a meaningful chance of recouping the high costs of becoming a civil aviator.

If the airlines manage to do this, I think they can mitigate many of the issues this article talks about. More importantly, if the big 3 dont start finding ways to incentivize their regional pilots, they will quickly find them being scooped up by the others, much like is starting to happen with Frontier and Spirit.

Newsflash. American Airlines has been doing this already. For YEARS. The flow program implemented post BK hires a candidate on DAY ONE as an American Airlines pilot.


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