For all ya'll considering Eagle
 

My dad is down in Dallas for recurrent this month. He was telling me that AE had another class of fourteen that they had to cancel, again, because of a lack in attendence. Apparently Eagle has been having problems like this since January. At any rate, my dad was telling me that Eagle has lowered their minimum flight requirements from 800tt/100me to 300tt/100me. Also, there was a time recently during which the mins were 500tt/100me.

With AA recalling guys and AE trying to expand, it is reasonable to think that the upgrade time will go down. Although, the current most junior jet captain was highered in '99.

Lastly, AE's web-site still shows the mins at 800tt/100me but just like a lot of other regionals, it seems they're just too lazy to change it.

So, use this info as you see fit.

Cheers,
-Danzig

I had to fight to get an interview with those guys at 1500/300 ! I guess today I could just skip the whole ASEL thing...

Harsh. When was that, and where do you fly now? If you don't mind my asking, I'm just curious.

When they first started hiring after 9/11. I'm at SKW now.

Actually there was a guy at my interview who had 3000+ hours of CFI. He had gotten hired by eagle in SEP 2001, class got canx, so he went bcak and spent two MORE years as a CFI.

I interview tomorrow. Anyone else going to be there.

Those were rough times for everyone. I had a former instructor who was in the sim for XJet on 9/11. They send them home that day.

Good luck!

At least he got a seniority number out of the deal.

Except last I heard, he stuck with the 135 world after that. Those were the days when you needed some real turbine experience to just get an interview. I think he's flying Lear 60s now.

Coming from someone who recently finished AE training, I haven't seen any issues in class sizes. The past 5 at least had 20+ new hires.

Well you are wrong the last class last monday had 30 people show up!!! We have been filling classes now that we have choise of base!!!!! the off the Street mins are 800/100 and most bridge programs are 500/100 some are a little lower the lowest is 400/100 with a CRJ Type program.. I know this because i do the Tech part for interviews... i work in pilot Recurment if u must know!!!! And now the most Jr Jet guy is 2/2000 and the prop is 11/2000....Any one who needs help with AE interview stuff let me know

Just putting a feeler out here..... how would a AF Guard guy with say 400/300 flying hercs fare? No bridge, etc, etc.

Not too well. We like guys who can land on asphalt or concrete runways. We found that most C-130 guys head for the dirt just after touchdown. Just kidding, I couldn't help it.

Thanks for the inside info. Now can a new hire request ERJ/CRJ base or a fairly senior base (DFW)? what is it based on? And for the tech part...ATP written is gone? And to study and foucs on the TECH part...what's the bottom line for a new hire to make it or brake-it?

DFW we had one go to the CRJ most go to the SAAB...Its the best for a new guy cause you will be off rsv alot sooner then on the jet in DFW.. CRJ fo is about 3yrs to get of rsv and the EMJ is about a year and 4 months.... Read all the gouges they are all the same.... How many hrs can u fly read me this DP what do i need to land ect!!!!

Hey, EglCL65 check your your pm, Have a Q for you

With upgrade times getting shorter and shorter you must be crazy to go to eagle unless you live in one of the bases but on the flip-side if the shortage is true the major are not going to be sticklers about PIC times so it won't matter.

Where is this posted?

do the math if you are an eagle emp look at the bid results and u shall see!!

Jet 6/99
Prop 10/00

The official bid will come out in 2 days.;)

You work in pilot recurment????????? Did you mean recruitment?????? Are you really part of H.R. at Eagle? I mean your spelling......... not sure if this flamebait or not.

I admit that I question EglCL65. No offense personally, but you know how it is having only a cyber-acquaintance.

At any rate, I verified this info. A second mainline CA told me the same bit of news.

So treat this thread as "rumor". Use your own judgment and discretion!

-Danzig

Thanx, I appreciate the responce.

First of all most main line guys dont have a clue about the classes at eagle! Most of what they hear is just hear say of info they get when a guy rides on their jumpseat. Any Egl emp will know by the flow plan the amount of new hires we get......

I have a question about Eagle. What is the benefits as far as travel like? When do they kick in? How does it work for family and your wife or significant other? Do you get any buddy passes?

Travel benefits kick in almost immediately after you begin class...a few days after. They work for your spouse or a "registered companion" plus parents. No buddy passes for two years...

youll be hired. the only reason people dont get hired at eagle is they screw up the sim. most people who interview there have never touched a sim so they get a little overwhelmed. after my sim, the instructor told me about how desparate they were to get guys who could just pass that freaking thing. but hoser why dont you stay on Title 10?

judging by your screename, looks like you got the SAAB, have fun shes a beast CTOT forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHE he's not t prop driver anymore. Kinda funny but he was roommate in training. Both flying the Jungle jet. Hey, How's IOE going???

Off orders in Nov, No Bummin' available.... Don't really want to farm out to another unit right now either. Wifey is CAL F/A, so we have been passing in the night for 2yrs now.

sounds like Peoria? yea i bet youll get hired at eagle no problem. Their published mins are one thing, your military experience is another. You go in there and knock that interview out the park. look at the interview gouge sites, study your atp written questions, take a look at the ATR panel for the sim, and the job will be all yours. Eagle is not a bad place for a military guy to wait it out. and if you want some widebody time get to 1500 hours and come to kalitta :)

If you are trying to say that someone hired in Feb. 2000 can hold jet FO you are correct. If you are trying so say that they can hold jet CA, you're either smoking crack, spreading lies, or talking about any other regional besides Eagle. The most junior awarded Eagle jet CA was hired in June 1999.

Was that 6/14 class or 6/28 class of 1999 for the jet. Just wondering where I'd be besides back in LA.

The final bid award:
T-prop (DFW SF3) - 09/18/00
Jet (ORD EMB) - 06/14/99

BTW- there are only 176 pilots between the junior T-prop CA award and the 1-19-2004 new hires.

Rumors are swirling CA awards may get to that class by years end.....

How's San Diego? I don't even remember when you started. Are you close to upgrade?

Which time? Close enough that I think I should start studying instead of slacking.....DOH!

Yup, about 13 yrs ago ...I couldn't even get an interview with 2000/500. That wasnt even competetive

There was a time in the late 90's that it was 2500tt, 1000 multi, 100 OR 500 turbine (can't remember) and preferbly some 135/121 time.

AWAC was the same.

Funny thing is, in general, if you got that kind of time it, sounds like you already have a job. Unless, you wanted that all important seniority number at AA that would do you so much good.

All the Saab instructors are pretty good. I know there are a couple new ones (Mike C) and I heard an older one may be on the way out (everyone calls in sick for their ride with him). You've been on it so long you're an old pro right? All that nice Socal weather.:)