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samiboy05 06-07-2007 05:10 PM

!!!! JOB where to GO!!!!!
 
Currently I have 950 TT 114 ME. I am doing internship with NWA and just had my 1st interview with only company I was considering. I thought interview went excellent knew but Pinnacle thought other. Not sure where to go next any recommendations? Looking for good work rules, pay and quick upgrade.

Andrew_VT 06-07-2007 05:12 PM

Is English your native tongue?

KDUA 06-07-2007 05:14 PM

Just keep applying to various regionals and you will fly jet soon. You have plenty of time (multi time as well). Just be patient:D :D . Very important!!!

Is it true that pinnacle interviw like 30 people and accept 2-3 of them? I was told by a friend. But I think it is bull ****!!!


Good luck

JoeyMeatballs 06-07-2007 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Andrew_VT (Post 176968)
Is English your native tongue?

that my friend........................................was awesome

crewdawg 06-07-2007 05:21 PM

You have enough time to apply at most regionals right now. If you want to fly freight you have enough time to get on with Airnet or Air Cargo Carriers and many more i'm sure. With that amount of time and the hiring that is going on now you should have no problem getting a job. You have a pulse so your half way there.

cl601pilot 06-07-2007 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Andrew_VT (Post 176968)
Is English your native tongue?

Nice. A true smart arse.

G-Dog 06-07-2007 05:27 PM

Samiboy,

There are only 3 regionals you should consider, in no paticular order:

1. Republic/CHQ/Shuttle America
2. Express Jet
3. Skywest

All others could be considered if domicle means a lot to you.

Silver02ex 06-07-2007 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by KDUA (Post 176971)
Is it true that pinnacle interviw like 30 people and accept 2-3 of them? I was told by a friend. But I think it is bull ****!!!


Good luck


We had 26 in my interview group and 6 was offered a class.

U-I pilot 06-07-2007 05:34 PM

Pinnacle was my first regional interview of about 5 or 6......only one to turn me down....... Trust me, that is the best result you could have gotten..... Go to a quality place listed above..... You have the time.... Just get the interview and good luck.

BigPropz 06-07-2007 05:53 PM

How about Eagle man things are looking up the AA guys are going back times are comming down to capt..

N2rotation 06-07-2007 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by G-Dog (Post 176980)
Samiboy,

There are only 3 regionals you should consider, in no paticular order:

1. Republic/CHQ/Shuttle America
2. Express Jet
3. Skywest

All others could be considered if domicle means a lot to you.

I agree with this post the most... except I might put XJT at the top. :cool:

Yzerman 06-07-2007 06:42 PM

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand circlejerk.

duvie 06-07-2007 06:59 PM

Everybody is hiring so it really depends on where you want to live.

As stated the companies with top contracts AND low upgrade times right now are XJT, SKW & Republic. Eagle's work rules are good and their upgrade time could be coming down significantly

You'll probably need to go to a group interview to get a call for SKW. XJT just takes a little time to process your application, I got a call after four weeks. I'm not sure of the timeline with Republic but I don't think you need an internal rec but I'm sure it would speed things up. I'm not sure about the process with Eagle

Get your stuff out there and then make your choice

Slice 06-07-2007 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by samiboy05 (Post 176967)
Currently I have 950 TT 114 ME. I am doing internship with NWA and just had my 1st interview with only company I was considering. I thought interview went excellent knew but Pinnacle thought other. Not sure where to go next any recommendations? Looking for good work rules, pay and quick upgrade.

Apply everywhere(except Gojets and Mesa)! Until offered a job, you don't have a choice to make.

IronWalt 06-07-2007 07:24 PM

Best Job to pick:

Company: McDonalds
Job: Burger Flipper
Location: Any

Starting pay is about the same. Progression to Assistant Manager and then Store Manager pays a little less than a CRJ Capt.

Prove yourself and wind up owning a store or two within ten years and make more than an AMR 777 Capt at an age well below what his is.

Helium3 06-07-2007 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by IronWalt (Post 177039)
Best Job to pick:

Company: McDonalds
Job: Burger Flipper
Location: Any

Starting pay is about the same. Progression to Assistant Manager and then Store Manager pays a little less than a CRJ Capt.

Prove yourself and wind up owning a store or two within ten years and make more than an AMR 777 Capt at an age well below what his is.


I'm sure QOL is high at McDonalds....

That lunch hour rush must be a sh!tload of fun....

Oh, I almost forgot the intriguing conversations you will have with your coworkers.....

trunk junk 06-07-2007 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Andrew_VT (Post 176968)
Is English your native tongue?


flying is so easy a caveman can do it

sflpilot 06-07-2007 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by N2rotation (Post 177006)
I agree with this post the most... except I might put XJT at the top. :cool:

XJT may not be so great right now because they could very well send you to LAX or ONT. Not a problem if you live out west and want to commute or already live there with your parents. Otherwise the cost of living will break you quick.

N2rotation 06-07-2007 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by sflpilot (Post 177088)
XJT may not be so great right now because they could very well send you to LAX or ONT. Not a problem if you live out west and want to commute or already live there with your parents. Otherwise the cost of living will break you quick.

The west coast is strongly possible, but there is attrition in ALL bases and new FOs are being sent everywhere. 40+ CAs / month are leaving and the upgrade has gone below 2 years. Good stuff.

If you don't get your first base choice, folks are getting it within 3 months.

BoilerUP 06-08-2007 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by G-Dog (Post 176980)
Samiboy,

There are only 3 regionals you should consider, in no paticular order:

1. Republic/CHQ/Shuttle America
2. Express Jet
3. Skywest

Justify yourself.

cbire880 06-08-2007 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 177143)
Justify yourself.

I'm guessing AWAC was left off due to the lack of a growth plan. Outstanding place to work, but cloudy future. At least to the outside world.

BoilerUP 06-08-2007 05:07 AM

I'm not so much worried about AWAC not being on his list as his reasoning for those companies he included. Is it solely because of growth?

If so, seven years ago that list likely would have been:

1. Comair
2. AWAC
3. Mesaba

If so, three years ago that list likely was:

1. Skywest
2. RAH
3. Pinnacle

Amazing how quickly things change....

cbire880 06-08-2007 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 177163)
I'm not so much worried about AWAC not being on his list as his reasoning for those companies he included. Is it solely because of growth?

If so, seven years ago that list likely would have been:

1. Comair
2. AWAC
3. Mesaba

If so, three years ago that list likely was:

1. Skywest
2. RAH
3. Pinnacle

Amazing how quickly things change....

Yup, its a dorked up industry. Pick your regional on QOL, but even that can change with all the recent base realignments.

The engineer in me wants to know his rational too now. My guess is that those three has the best blend of growth, pay, and work rules. Everyone else suffers in one of those three areas. Of course they have their weaknesses as well.

UnlimitedAkro 06-08-2007 10:20 AM

go to Eagle. They'll pay you better in training, they'll treat you better than the other regionals, and you get to pick your base.

skillet13 06-08-2007 10:29 AM

Quote: go to Eagle. They'll pay you better in training, they'll treat you better than the other regionals, and you get to pick your base.


Samiboy05 said he wants a "quick upgrade", so unless things start changing at AE, that don't fit the bill. 5 years ain't very quick.

BoilerUP 06-08-2007 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by skillet13
Samiboy05 said he wants a "quick upgrade", so unless things start changing at AE, that don't fit the bill. 5 years ain't very quick.

What is quick today won't necessarily be quick one, two, three, or four years from now.


Originally Posted by samiboy05
Looking for good work rules, pay and quick upgrade.

Everybody wants a company with good work rules, good pay and a quick upgrade...but you typically can only have one (maybe two) of those three...

skillet13 06-08-2007 11:16 AM

[quote=BoilerUP;177337]What is quick today won't necessarily be quick one, two, three, or four years from now.


If you look at it that way then everythings a crap shoot. Do you have any evidence to show that upgrade at AE will get any better?

cbire880 06-08-2007 11:23 AM

I think the moral of the story is not to chase upgrade times. They are the most fluid of factors in your career and the only one not contractually mandated. Consider work rules, pay, domiciles(move that first if you have a family), then upgrade prospects (if you consider them at all) in that order which picking a regional.

BoilerUP 06-08-2007 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by skillet13
If you look at it that way then everythings a crap shoot. Do you have any evidence to show that upgrade at AE will get any better?

Yes.

AA Flowbacks at Eagle are being recalled to mainline, which alone will open up 400+ CA seats in the next couple years. Combine that with normal attrition and the gap in hiring between 2001 and 2004 (or whenever their first post-9/11 newhire class was) and upgrade time at Eagle will likely drop to 4 or less years.

skillet13 06-08-2007 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 177368)
Yes.

AA Flowbacks at Eagle are being recalled to mainline, which alone will open up 400+ CA seats in the next couple years. Combine that with normal attrition and the gap in hiring between 2001 and 2004 (or whenever their first post-9/11 newhire class was) and upgrade time at Eagle will likely drop to 4 or less years.

I'm sure that will free up some seats as you say, but I just always asumed that Eagle was a slower upgrade because of the amount of career captains. I've heard they have quite a few. What do you think?

BoilerUP 06-08-2007 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by skillet13 (Post 177376)
I'm sure that will free up some seats as you say, but I just always asumed that Eagle was a slower upgrade because of the amount of career captains. I've heard they have quite a few. What do you think?

Every regional has its share of lifers...and the currently growing airlines aren't exempt from that. That is what large jet equipment (146 at AWAC, Avro at Mesaba, CR7 at ASA/Comair/Eagle) and a requisite higher pay rate will create.

I've no doubt that with every additional 175 RAH takes delivery of Bedford is gaining at least 3 lifers..if I were 31, had 7-8 years longevity putting me into the top 10% of the pilot group and and was flying the largest and highest paying airframe available, I know I'd be tempted to stay put too!

G-Dog 06-09-2007 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 177143)
Justify yourself.

Just as others have said, growth right now is best at these regionals. You make a good point that things change, but all we can say NOW is that the 3 airlines I listed are doing the best in growth. If I could predict the future, I would not be a pilot.

As for the fellow who said he would put X-jet at the top, you obviously do not read very well. I said in NO paticular order.

samiboy05 07-06-2007 03:50 PM

thanks all

Fugazi 07-06-2007 04:05 PM

Don't forget about PSA.

samiboy05 07-06-2007 04:12 PM

Have AE interview coming up, will try them all just got back from Europe……TX

Inbluskyz 07-06-2007 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 176981)
We had 26 in my interview group and 6 was offered a class.

With regards to Pinnacle hiring only a few from your interview group, what kind of experience did they have?


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