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flyandive 06-10-2007 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by jeff122670 (Post 178073)

the airline and its aircraft are really nice, but i cant STAND to fly them simply because of the PAX.....

Put the headphones on as soon as you get on the airplane, doesn't matter if you are listening to music or not, just make sure they think you can't hear them!

newarkblows 06-11-2007 09:46 AM

i dont like being prejudiced against an airlines passengers.... i dont think its just the low cost airlines that you guys are referring too. fly down to florida ... i did it on cal, delta, and jetblue and was shocked on all of them. People asking for 3 cans of soda, one of every snack, kneeling on the seat backwards the entire flight so they can talk to the person behind them..... i mean these people pay 60 bucks one way to florida and want every penny its worth. On jetblue they offer like six different types of snacks.... people want "one of each" and you sit there like good Christ weren't you taught manners? its a whole new ballgame here folks. i love the flights of business travelers.... they know the game, have manners, and as long as your honest with them they are cool. and on the delta flight it was a kid from the inner city's first flight and he started rapping aloud while listening to his ipod. he also screamed( because he was wearing ear phones) "i hope this ***** dont blow up" after takeoff. The lady next to him "sir your being very rude" and he shut up.

elcid79 06-13-2007 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by flyandive (Post 177480)
LOL, couldn't agree more. How are you supposed to put flight attendants on commission?! :confused: More, crap they sell? But here I was thinking the F/A was there for safety purposes, boy I must really be wrong.

Thats a very good point. When was the last time that you really respected a door to door salesman.... or telemarketer, or the person peddling drinks @ mcdonalds... This is a bad idea.

ExperimentalAB 06-13-2007 09:18 PM

Talking to a couple of young F/A's in training today, I was shocked when they asked me if they are "actually expected to help people get out in an emergency..." Apparently they don't understand the responsibility they are accepting!! 'Least we know these F/A's aren't there for Safety!

freezingflyboy 06-14-2007 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 180037)
Talking to a couple of young F/A's in training today, I was shocked when they asked me if they are "actually expected to help people get out in an emergency..." Apparently they don't understand the responsibility they are accepting!! 'Least we know these F/A's aren't there for Safety!

A lot of em, especially at the regional level, are so naive it makes me wonder if they are really that dumb or its just a character they play. They think they'll be flying to Paris for a 48 hour layover, serving champagne and chatting with celebrities. Then they find out the gig is 5 legs to bumfudge, anywhere slinging diet coke and pretzels.:rolleyes:

freezingflyboy 06-14-2007 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by Sr. Barco (Post 177251)
I am a Southwest pilot and I ride Mesaba Airlines a couple times a year from MSP to a northern Minnesota city and back. Thank you very much for allowing me to jumpseat on your airline. Of course you guys and girls are always welcome on us.

Now to the title of this post. The other day when I caught a ride the captain was very cool, as is my usual experience. However, not more than 2 seconds after he signed the ACM form he turned to his F/O and started comparing Southwest Airlines to Walmart. Frankly that comparison is not new to me so I really don't care about that. Plus if we're like Walmart then I better get a red vest because I love working here. :D

I just think making a comment like that within earshot of another pilot is a bit unprofessional. Aviation is a small community. Management is already tearing apart most pilot groups, lets not do it to each other.

Take care!

S.B.

Maybe he said "when I'm on Southwest, I feel like I'm in Wal Mart". I can totally understand that statement. You are surrounded my loud, large obnoxious, penny-pinching people, the prices are low and there are Wal Mart bags everywhere (being used as luggage). Again, just trying to play devil's advocate:D

the King 06-14-2007 06:21 AM

It seems we all have this love-hate relationship with passengers. We definitely need them to keep our jobs, but some people are just impossible. From the rude, selfish, and obnoxious passengers, to the equally dangerous pretenders who spread misinformation (usually to the people who are afraid of flying) being in the cabin can be a pain. I loved the advice for looking like you are busy. I sit down (right behind the wing) put on the headphones and sleep or watch the wings.

AirArney 06-14-2007 08:13 AM

Why is it that there is this "Bash Wal-Mart" mentality? Everyone posting here has automatically assumed a Wal-Mart comparison is negative..... Check the facts: Wal-Mart is the most successful corporation in the world!

Any before the "this and thats" chime in.... The only reason how you know what the "average" Wal-Mart customer looks like is because YOU have been there as well. EVERYONE shops at Wal-Mart, some are just too chickensh*t to admit it. As for Wal-Mart being "White Trash," YOU shop there, so take a look in the mirror, then come down out of your ivory tower.

Why would I pay 150.00 for a buddy pass on CAL when I can pay 120.00 and have a guaranteed seat on SWA?

Just my 2 cents.... Of couse at Wal-Mart prices, that would be my half cent.

CL65driver 06-14-2007 08:45 AM

I'd think it was pretty unprofessional of the FO to say that about SWA within earshot of you. As an Fo, when we've got jumpseaters, especially up front- I'll just keep my opinions about their operation to myself.

... just a small courtesy to them.

cbire880 06-14-2007 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by the King (Post 180118)
It seems we all have this love-hate relationship with passengers. We definitely need them to keep our jobs, but some people are just impossible. From the rude, selfish, and obnoxious passengers, to the equally dangerous pretenders who spread misinformation (usually to the people who are afraid of flying) being in the cabin can be a pain.

This goes for our society in general. Thanks to all the PC bovine scatterment(there's some right there), people have lost all sense of how to act in public. We are terrified of correcting someone's obnoxious behavior for fear of being sued and we don't correct children b/c it might harm their precious self esteem to be told they are out of line. In general, this population needs to start holding each other to a higher standard of behavior. Simple things like please, thank you, holding the door, and your welcome go a long way to making life a lot more pleasant. Go watch the movie Idiocracy. Its poorly made(but funny as hell), but pretty scary b/c I can see how we could progress towards its view of the future.


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