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duvie 06-08-2007 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by elcid79 (Post 177347)
machaf, so have you never made a mistake... You must be an aviation god....

Easy bud. Lets not turn a good thread into a flamefest.

I'm finishing up at SkyWest and overall I think its pretty easy. Ground was four weeks and started at 8am and usually ended around 5 pm with a one hour lunch. We had one week of Indoc which was very straight forward, then two weeks of CRJ 200 systems which were super easy to follow along with. You don't need to even open your book during systems because they teach you everything that is actually relevant to flying. I would have liked them to go a little more in depth but I guess when they only have you for two weeks every minute counts. The last week we did ACARS, FMS, weight & balance, performance and a couple days of 700/900 differences training.

We do 3 static training sessions during ground. You will bid on your sim schedule using the more senior person's number (Most of use were paired up with upgrades). 5 FTDs, the first of which is infront of a paper trainer and the other four are in the actual sim, just without motion (I think we have XJT beat there SAAB ;) ). 8 sims follow, 1 of which is your checkride. A day or two after your sim checkride you go and do a pattern, some airwork and an ILS in the actual airplane! Definitely a nice way to do your first landing as opposed to having a boatload of people behind you.

Overall I think training here is good, not great but I guess its a nice blend of professionalism and fun. Out of my class of 25 nobody failed yet. There are still some left in the sim though.

Mayerling 06-08-2007 12:17 PM

Thx duvie,

That's what I'm looking for. Keep'em coming guys/gals.

Aviana 06-10-2007 08:18 AM

Would someone give a description of the training program at PSA?

POPA 06-10-2007 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by machaf (Post 177344)
Did they teach you to close your flight plan if tower is closed? Or is it common to leave for the hotel and let the other 5 aircraft inbound hold?

If you'd been there first, you wouldn't have had that problem.

4N1flyr 06-10-2007 10:53 AM

I was told by someone who had been through both Commutair's and Colgan's Training programs. The difference was "night and day," advantage Commutair. In fairness, Colgan training was said to be good, but Commutair was better. I sure hope they are correct.

Commutair's training is 3 weeks ground in PLB, then 8 sims in LGA or Orlando @ Flight Saftety. All training conducted by Commutair's Training Department, which i've heard nothing but good things about from past/present employees.

CL65driver 06-12-2007 07:44 AM

XJT training is easy, as long as you pay attention, apply yourself and take responsibility for your own screw ups. I went through CRJ ground at 9E, which was a complete joke. None of our systems instructors have ever touched a CRJ before. I understand you can teach a monkey to fly this thing easily (just look at SAAB!.. :p kidding, bro!! :D ), but come on!

On the flip side, XJT was a class act for training. No complaints about them. Our instructors had their $hit together when I went through, and that really made things easy. Two people didn't make it through my class of 16, one failed out of sim 3, kept blaming his instructor for his mistakes. And another guy made it all the way to sim 6 and ran out of steam... ATR'd 3 times on that, and they just let him go.


... and the training center is really nice too!! :D

RJ900 06-12-2007 08:02 AM

"ATR'd" what is it?

CL65driver 06-12-2007 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by RJ900 (Post 179193)
"ATR'd" what is it?

"Additional Training Required"

elcid79 06-13-2007 08:51 PM

TSA was a pill, the class before us had 60% or so fail out. We did allittle better. I am thinking 30 - 45%ish. I can't remember exactly. However, I found it very fair. and strait forward. Unfortunatly, some people just are not qualified...

ExperimentalAB 06-13-2007 09:22 PM

I'd say it was more like 45-50% dude, for at least three classes straight!! I think it's come down some now...

Still it boggles my mind...sure the training was severely sub-par, but if I could make it through LoL, anybody can - even you ;-)

Nevertheless, it was the WORST three months of my life!! Hehe...


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