50 seat contraction
11-09-2021, 04:51 AM
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50 seat sunset
https://thepointsguy.com/news/united...us-cities/amp/
Fifty-seat service going away as Kirby discussed
Fifty-seat service going away as Kirby discussed
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11-09-2021, 05:24 AM
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I don't believe this is because of what Kirby discussed. Several thousand hours of fly have been giving back to United by the regional carriers due to staffing issues.
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11-09-2021, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman21
I don't believe this is because of what Kirby discussed. Several thousand hours of fly have been giving back to United by the regional carriers due to staffing issues.
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11-09-2021, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz
Air Whiskey pilots are so deep in denial about this… reminds me of Compass people in 2018-2019 when it was clear their Delta contract would not be renewed
I know the majority of the routes canceled have been ZW routes but EVERY UA regional carrier gave hours back to UA this month. EVERY ONE.
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11-09-2021, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman21
I don't believe this is because of what Kirby discussed. Several thousand hours of fly have been giving back to United by the regional carriers due to staffing issues.
“We’re struggling with that, we feel some obligation to keep the communities connected, but the economics ultimately aren’t going to work, and pilot shortages — you know, they’re getting squeezed.”
he said the pilot shortage (ie carriers giving back hours) makes the 50 seat model unworkable. And so they are winding down the flying
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thepoin...view-iata/amp/
11-09-2021, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
it is exactly what he said
“We’re struggling with that, we feel some obligation to keep the communities connected, but the economics ultimately aren’t going to work, and pilot shortages — you know, they’re getting squeezed.”
he said the pilot shortage (ie carriers giving back hours) makes the 50 seat model unworkable. And so they are winding down the flying
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thepoin...view-iata/amp/
“We’re struggling with that, we feel some obligation to keep the communities connected, but the economics ultimately aren’t going to work, and pilot shortages — you know, they’re getting squeezed.”
he said the pilot shortage (ie carriers giving back hours) makes the 50 seat model unworkable. And so they are winding down the flying
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thepoin...view-iata/amp/
11-09-2021, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman21
I don't believe this is because of what Kirby discussed. Several thousand hours of fly have been giving back to United by the regional carriers due to staffing issues.
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Delta pilots would love that. However tons of hours were given to their WO due to staffing issues over the summer.
11-09-2021, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman21
I'm not in denial about anything. The flying was given back to United. Not taken. Unless this situation was purposefully created by United. We lost 40 to Aviate last month. 18 the first 2 weeks of November. There are no more sims available backing up the training pipeline. Sim dates are now pushing 4 months for new hires.
I know the majority of the routes canceled have been ZW routes but EVERY UA regional carrier gave hours back to UA this month. EVERY ONE.
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I know the majority of the routes canceled have been ZW routes but EVERY UA regional carrier gave hours back to UA this month. EVERY ONE.
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11-09-2021, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz
But not every one has a fleet of obsolete 20 year old 200s with no prospects of new CPA flying
ZW has a way of throwing a curveball into everyone's crystal ball...
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