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Originally Posted by DontLookDown
(Post 3421629)
Factor in all the early COVID retirements, all the people who run into medical issues in their 60s and all the others who don’t want to work past 65…. And you aren’t left with too many people.
Also, it wouldn’t fix the problem. Most pilots that old are at Majors or Legacy airlines. The shortage is regional captains and LCA. The only thing that would possibly put a dent in the problem is if you created a “Restricted 1st Class” medical allowing people older then 65 to still fly part 121 in aircraft with less than 80 seats (or something like that). |
Originally Posted by Hedley
(Post 3421670)
Raising the retirement age would temporarily reduce retirements and slow regional attrition. When the retirement age was raised before, everyone said that it would only set things back a couple of years since most would leave at 62-63. The fact is that very few did, and I’d suspect that very few will if it is raised again. The overwhelming majority of pilots will take the money as long as they can.
If not, then the senior 777 CA would have to downgrade to domestic routes only and i don't see them doing that... |
Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad
(Post 3421733)
Would you be able to fly past 65 in ICAO since they are 65?
If not, then the senior 777 CA would have to downgrade to domestic routes only and i don't see them doing that... |
Originally Posted by jaxsurf
(Post 3421010)
The fact that Republic (or any airline) could think that their training is equivalent or even somewhat close to US military flight training is utterly, incredibly laughable.
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Originally Posted by DontLookDown
(Post 3421629)
Factor in all the early COVID retirements, all the people who run into medical issues in their 60s and all the others who don’t want to work past 65…. And you aren’t left with too many people.
Also, it wouldn’t fix the problem. Most pilots that old are at Majors or Legacy airlines. The shortage is regional captains and LCA. The only thing that would possibly put a dent in the problem is if you created a “Restricted 1st Class” medical allowing people older then 65 to still fly part 121 in aircraft with less than 80 seats (or something like that). |
Originally Posted by IamEssential
(Post 3421810)
Actually it may fix the problem. The retirement age moves 3 years and brings three years of seniority stagnation at the Legacies, hiring is going to dramatically slow down to a pace we saw before COVID.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad
(Post 3421733)
Would you be able to fly past 65 in ICAO since they are 65?
If not, then the senior 777 CA would have to downgrade to domestic routes only and i don't see them doing that... |
How many Widebody captains will stay past 65 if it means multi leg domestic days?
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
(Post 3422508)
How many Widebody captains will stay past 65 if it means multi leg domestic days?
Time will tell. Assuming it passes. I think it will eventually but maybe not immediately. |
In all reality the push to reduce the 1500 hours has nothing to do with the idea of the quality of pilots coming into the industry. Look back at what the starting pay was for pilots who could sit right seat with a wet commercial certificate versus now. Again it’s not a pilot shortage, it’s a shortage of pay and QOL. There are copious amounts of 135/61 pilots out there who could make the jump to 121. They don’t want to because they don’t want to take a pay cut, or they don’t want to get slapped around by crew scheduling for 4-5 days and have to try and commute on oversold flights to a $300+ crash pad in ORD/NYC/DCA.
I guarantee if the 1500 rule was reduced there would be such an influx of bright eyed shiny jet syndrome kids that companies wouldn’t feel the pressure to improve contracts and make themselves more desirable. |
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