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kevin18 05-08-2022 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3419045)
Being security clearance eligible is a very nice enhancement, there are many projects which DoD won't let mfgs outsource to New Dehli. Of course having an active clearance is the best icing on the cake, but even eligibility is enough. If you're SIDA eligible you're probably good for a TS.

Do they really go interview every person on your references and then go interview people those people mentioned for a SIDA badge? I don’t think SIDA would make it a TS definite. TS investigations take months and are much more than a criminal check. Have poor financials? No TS. Along with a myriad of other reasons to be denied.

Round Luggage 05-08-2022 02:09 PM


greatmovieistar 05-08-2022 03:09 PM

WAAAAAAAA!!! I just got my wet Commercial Cert, I want to fly for the Airlines now!!! WAAAAAA!!!!!! It's not fair WAAAAA!!!!!!!

Guppydriver95 05-08-2022 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO (Post 3418213)
They need to readjust the rule. 1000 because you paid an enormous amount of money to get a 4 yr degree in Aviation doesn’t make you a better pilot than someone who passed the same checkrides with 1000TT but has a 4 yr degree in a different subject matter. Actually the 2nd student is smarter so when he/she gets furloughed (not if but when), they have another field to fall back on. So if you want to change anything, make the Mins 1000TT with any 4-yr degree. (Now here come the Aviation Universities whining and protesting that idea)

The reasoning is that the Universities have a more structured program. The Feds obviously believe the product is better at a structured collegiate program as well, hence the lower requirement.

CFIsoonToBeFO 05-08-2022 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 (Post 3419287)
The reasoning is that the Universities have a more structured program. The Feds obviously believe the product is better at a structured collegiate program as well, hence the lower requirement.

You mean the universities lobbied more more to the Feds than the Mom & Pop FBO’s. If the Checkrides are to PTS Standards, the school name on your degree should not matter.

Guppydriver95 05-08-2022 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO (Post 3419315)
You mean the universities lobbied more more to the Feds than the Mom & Pop FBO’s. If the Checkrides are to PTS Standards, the school name on your degree should not matter.

There are minimum standards, and there is training above and beyond the minimum standard.

KirillTheThrill 05-08-2022 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO (Post 3419315)
You mean the universities lobbied more more to the Feds than the Mom & Pop FBO’s. If the Checkrides are to PTS Standards, the school name on your degree should not matter.

Nah, that’s not accurate at all lol.

You’re required to take 60 credits specific to aviation and graduate with a degree in aviation to meet the 1,000 hour ATP minimums. BECAUSE you took 60 credits (or more) specific to aviation, you’re reduced 500 hours, that’s fair.

Swakid8 05-08-2022 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill (Post 3419337)
Nah, that’s not accurate at all lol.

You’re required to take 60 credits specific to aviation and graduate with a degree in aviation to meet the 1,000 hour ATP minimums. BECAUSE you took 60 credits (or more) specific to aviation, you’re reduced 500 hours, that’s fair.

A lot of those courses also take a deeper dive into different aspects of aviation as well and isn’t just flying a aircraft. Examples are deeper dive into weather theory (something that Part 61 pilots don’t dive much into) and deeper dive Human Factors (something that Part 61 pilot isn’t covering.) Just some examples.

highfarfast 05-09-2022 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by QRH Bingo (Post 3419057)
I don't have any 121 time but wondering about this thought of reducing the SIC time needed to upgrade. Quality of time does matter, yeah? That is why they offer an exception for 135 PIC but they add in that it must be passenger ops, while excluding others like cargo. Why is that? Does my E120 PIC time somehow count less because I don't have any panicky passengers in the back leaving nail marks on the armrests?
Instead of reducing the 1,000 hrs 121 SIC required, how about just making ALL 135 PIC time count toward that? (Not that anything I say on here is going to change the rules, just asking. lol)

Not all 135 PIC ops requires an ATP.

Round Luggage 05-09-2022 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3419361)
A lot of those courses also take a deeper dive into different aspects of aviation as well and isn’t just flying a aircraft. Examples are deeper dive into weather theory (something that Part 61 pilots don’t dive much into) and deeper dive Human Factors (something that Part 61 pilot isn’t covering.) Just some examples.

And the Airmail act, which is important. 61/141 isn’t college/no college
The advice prior from grads was always to get a degree is something else to fall back on, but now you and the school got something out of it so it’s sooper important. It was always about money like nearly everything.


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