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SonicFlyer 05-24-2022 11:04 AM

Stossel covers the pilot shortage
 
Finally, someone in the media who understand the issue...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNCjdAuCbZA

BoilerUP 05-24-2022 12:10 PM

Stossel doesn’t understand literally anything about this issue, he’s just another pundit speaking out of school.

Beech Dude 05-24-2022 12:34 PM

This is bogus. Stossel is out of his range here. Constantly showing people flying GA and saying really? 1500? What do you mean this kid flying a 152 can't be an FO on a 737? 1500 unsupervised hours meet the requirement "but." Of course "but." If he did any research he'd know that no one with just 1500 piston SEL is getting hired at any ULCC, LCC, or Major.
The unions cited low pay for a lack of pilots. Yeah, that's correct. No one wants to fly for foodstamps. Go figure going into significant debt and being paid peanuts wasn't appealing. Training has changed, applicants are more experienced, and the main thing, safety and reductions in accidents shows that.

ninerdriver 05-24-2022 04:14 PM

How's the 5G reception over there, anyway?

rickair7777 05-24-2022 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3429005)
Stossel doesn’t understand literally anything about this issue, he’s just another pundit speaking out of school.


Yup, talking out of his arse.

You don't acquire fundamental PIC ability in the right seat of an airliner. Too many layers of protection inherent in the system to learn much.

Round Luggage 05-24-2022 04:46 PM

He looks old.

fadec 05-24-2022 06:32 PM

John Stossel on the pilot shortage.
 
​​​​​https://youtu.be/CNCjdAuCbZA

Thanks, John. BTW, pilot bros, the RAA says you're actually less qualified above 1500 hours.
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AirBear 05-24-2022 07:57 PM

I flew as a PIC in the CRJ at Mesa 2003-2005 before the 1500 hour rule. Then I left and went to NetJets which back then had a 2500 hour min. By 2007 I upgraded and could see a major difference in the quality of the F/O's I flew with. The young F/O's at Mesa with 500~ish hours had very little "air sense". They were great to do checkrides in the Sim with but had trouble judging the energy state of the jet on visual approaches. If they want to sharply reduce the hours requirement then they need to require training on par with what Navy and USAF pilots get.

JurgenKlopp 05-24-2022 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by fadec (Post 3429198)
​​​​​https://youtu.be/CNCjdAuCbZA

Thanks, John. BTW, pilot bros, the RAA says you're actually less qualified above 1500 hours.
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Who is the fat dude talking about valuable jet time? Bet he peaked a decade or so ago..

rickair7777 05-24-2022 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by AirBear (Post 3429221)
I flew as a PIC in the CRJ at Mesa 2003-2005 before the 1500 hour rule. Then I left and went to NetJets which back then had a 2500 hour min. By 2007 I upgraded and could see a major difference in the quality of the F/O's I flew with. The young F/O's at Mesa with 500~ish hours had very little "air sense". They were great to do checkrides in the Sim with but had trouble judging the energy state of the jet on visual approaches. If they want to sharply reduce the hours requirement then they need to require training on par with what Navy and USAF pilots get.

Around the same time-frame I'm on a mesa jumpseat, the LCA was doing new-hire IOE. From the east to BFL or maybe FAT, so rapid descent into the valley after clearing the Sierras. We do the lav shuffle, and the CA tells me (while the trainee is out) that she has issues with descent planning. On this leg, he's not going to say anything and just let her manage it all on her own. We get PD for the descent... and arrive over the marker at FL230 :eek:


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