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Originally Posted by coldpilot
(Post 186355)
Expunged doesn't always mean expunged. One of our professors here had a classmate apply at xjet and didn't report an underage drinking ticket that he got out in Bismarck because it was "expunged." Well turns out it was expunged to all agencies except the FBI, he later came to find out that xjet has the FBI do their background checks. He called HR and told them about the incident and they flew him down to Houston and ripped him a new ********* then still gave him the job. If you get the FBI to do your check and give you a copy and it comes up clean you are probably ok, otherwise just report it. Nothing could be worse than getting pulled out of groundschool and confronted about it then fired because that will follow you for a long time.
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The questions should be worded specifically. All of the background paperwork I've filled out had specific language that indicates whether or not you needed to record it. Often they ask two questions. Have you even been arrested/charged? And have you ever been convicted? You'd have to answer yes to the first even if it had been expunged. That would inevitably lead to the discussion of why it was expunged.
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All Good Points
All valid points but since my Federal Record (FBI) came back with no arrest record, I am not too concerned. Great information though.
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
(Post 186515)
why? like someone previously said, if it's expunged, you don't need to report it. You make a point that xjt found out about it, but he still got the job didn't he? why not just tell them how many times you've cussed in your life or how many times you've had road rage while you're at it? bottom line: just like on a checkride/oral......don't open up any cans of worms; only answer the q's that YOU ARE REQUIRED TO. Convictions or charges expunged do not fall into that category.
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Originally Posted by Terantious
(Post 186523)
All valid points but since my Federal Record (FBI) came back with no arrest record, I am not too concerned. Great information though.
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Big Brother may not be directly watching. Those of us who have gone through security investigations (I'm pretty sure pilot background checks aren't nearly as thorough) understand that he has a pretty deep pile of info that he can dig into on each and every one of us. For instance, they knew my career plans and that my wife was pregnant without me telling them. If there once was a record of it, they can find it if they want to. If you are caught in a lie, you are definately hosed. If you are up front, you might be hosed. I'll take might be hosed over definately hosed any day.
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Originally Posted by cbire880
(Post 186588)
Big Brother may not be directly watching. Those of us who have gone through security investigations (I'm pretty sure pilot background checks aren't nearly as thorough) understand that he has a pretty deep pile of info that he can dig into on each and every one of us. For instance, they knew my career plans and that my wife was pregnant without me telling them. If there once was a record of it, they can find it if they want to. If you are caught in a lie, you are definately hosed. If you are up front, you might be hosed. I'll take might be hosed over definately hosed any day.
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
(Post 186600)
but that does not pertain to this topic. The hiring agency still must follow the law(e.g. an expungement is just that). I don't care if they know how many times one jerks off in a day, they can't use it against you. an
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Originally Posted by Deez340
(Post 186603)
At least twice a day! Sometimes more if i see Hot Mamma's avatar!Actually, i think that's how I got on at Delta.:D
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While trying to find a list of questions asked for the TSA background check, I stumbled upon this from Pinnacle...
http://www.flypinnacle.com/site/our_...nformation.pdf I didn't know they could ask you if you used tobacco... |
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