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Paok 07-08-2007 09:23 AM

My boyfriend and I are both FO's ad we dont live in a house with 6 other FO's or eat top ramen..... Get in the industry when your young and can afford to make no money. I am a new FO but he isnt, and he is not uphappy..... A BMW, an Audi and a nice apartment downtown....I'd say we live pretty well I think, of course I dont own a house or anything, but Im doing fine for being 22, and all my friends from college dont even have jobs and live with mom and dad still...... Of course I guess student loans would be a problem.... Guess we are lucky in that respect :)

BoilerUP 07-08-2007 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Paok (Post 192116)
My boyfriend and I are both FO's ad we dont live in a house with 6 other FO's or eat top ramen..... Get in the industry when your young and can afford to make no money. I am a new FO but he isnt, and he is not uphappy..... A BMW, an Audi and a nice apartment downtown....I'd say we live pretty well I think, of course I dont own a house or anything, but Im doing fine for being 22, and all my friends from college dont even have jobs and live with mom and dad still...... Of course I guess student loans would be a problem.... Guess we are lucky in that respect :)

Do the two of you have at least three months of normal expenses saved in cash? How much do you have in retirement accounts? Audis and BMWs are nice but they don't let you retire early...

With company match I put 17% into my 401k, both my wife and I have Roth IRAs, and we have about 4 months of normal expenses in cash savings. Not too bad for a couple 23 year olds...

The most important thing for anybody, especially a first year regional pilot, is to STAY OUT OF DEBT!

Slice 07-08-2007 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Paok (Post 192116)
My boyfriend and I are both FO's ad we dont live in a house with 6 other FO's or eat top ramen..... Get in the industry when your young and can afford to make no money. I am a new FO but he isnt, and he is not uphappy..... A BMW, an Audi and a nice apartment downtown....I'd say we live pretty well I think, of course I dont own a house or anything, but Im doing fine for being 22, and all my friends from college dont even have jobs and live with mom and dad still...... Of course I guess student loans would be a problem.... Guess we are lucky in that respect :)

Please tell us you're a chick pilot...:D

kalyx522 07-08-2007 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Paok (Post 192116)
My boyfriend and I are both FO's ad we dont live in a house with 6 other FO's or eat top ramen..... Get in the industry when your young and can afford to make no money. I am a new FO but he isnt, and he is not uphappy..... A BMW, an Audi and a nice apartment downtown....I'd say we live pretty well I think, of course I dont own a house or anything, but Im doing fine for being 22, and all my friends from college dont even have jobs and live with mom and dad still...... Of course I guess student loans would be a problem.... Guess we are lucky in that respect :)

gee, make the rest of us feel bad will ya? :rolleyes:

el jefe 07-08-2007 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 192105)
Thats a bunch of BS,...

What's BS? What I said or what the airlines do??? :confused:

These are observations from a lowly piston pilot trying to figure things out before I send my resumes in.

Outlaw2097 07-08-2007 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Paok (Post 192116)
My boyfriend and I are both FO's ad we dont live in a house with 6 other FO's or eat top ramen..... Get in the industry when your young and can afford to make no money. I am a new FO but he isnt, and he is not uphappy..... A BMW, an Audi and a nice apartment downtown....I'd say we live pretty well I think, of course I dont own a house or anything, but Im doing fine for being 22, and all my friends from college dont even have jobs and live with mom and dad still...... Of course I guess student loans would be a problem.... Guess we are lucky in that respect :)

i guess winning the state lottery or a lucky weekend in vegas helps :cool:

Paok 07-08-2007 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Slice (Post 192126)
Please tell us you're a chick pilot...:D

Obviously I am a girl!!! I am just saying, we are not miserable and we are both FO's. Its possible (if your young) like we are......... Everyone is just making out life to be SO horrible, and that the only happy FO's are the brand new ones....not true.... Of course like I said we were lucky enough to not have college loans etc........

Cubdriver 07-08-2007 01:13 PM

Well I for one am glad for you. And your avatar was cool too. Any chance of replacing it?... much better than mine.

My life has been rather hard and I appreciate it when there are people who have been less stressed by it as yourself. Try and put some money away... BoilerUp has a valid point. I am not ashamed to drive a well-kept 15 year old car. They say the late great John Wayne drove an ordinary Pontiac.

Paok 07-08-2007 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 192177)
Well I for one am glad for you. And your avatar was cool too. Any chance of replacing it?... much better than mine.

My life has been rather hard and I appreciate it when there are people who have been less stressed by it as yourself. Try and put some money away... BoilerUp has a valid point. I am not ashamed to drive a well-kept 15 year old car. They say the late great John Wayne drove an ordinary Pontiac.

Am already putting into 401K and I havent been out of college 2 months, its not much but its a start.....

crewdawg 07-08-2007 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by bertramcheeks22 (Post 188105)
OK, so I can read everyones griping and boasting about all the regionals, but WHY?!! I know that Mesa is bad and the QOL sucks..but WHY? So how bout anyone with any knowledge of any regional offers some insight as to why they like/dislike that particular airline. My application will be going out in about a year so I'd like to get know know what it's like out there. Care to enlighten us guys? Maybe a top 5 good and bad? Here's how I see it now. I live near Cleveland and have a mother that works for CAL so I've been partial to the airline forever. ;)

Good:

1. Horizon (LOVE the Dash 8's and it's west which is where I'd like to live ultimately.)
2. Skywest (West, KDEN :))
3. Commutair (Dash 8's, Cleveland, CAL)
4. Republic
5. ExpressJet (CAL, Cleveland)

Bad

1. Mesa
2. PSA
3. Comair
4. Mesaba?
5. Great Lakes? (Although I really would LOVE to fly Beech 1900's out of DEN through the Rockies with no auto-pilot. Seems like a great experience, put the pay is just so damn low)

Bertramcheck22, I am disappointed with your research skills! Just because a company is on top today, that doesn't mean they will be tomorrow. Go where you will be happy should you get stuck there for a while. There is another thread on here somewhere that has contract/work rules, check that out, it has some good info. BTW, not sure I would have commutair up there, talk with Wadsworth, we know a guy who worked there and left for Express, he will give you some info. on commutair.

Look at where you want to end up in your career and work backwards. It will most likely chance over the years but you have to start somewhere. So narrow down where you would like to retire and then evaluate you best options on how to get there.

As far as chasing an aircraft. Sure it would be fun to fly a certain aircraft but I would guess after a few hundred hours it would loose its appeal. Then again I'd fly a supercub if the pay/benefits were right.




Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 192120)
Do the two of you have at least three months of normal expenses saved in cash? How much do you have in retirement accounts? Audis and BMWs are nice but they don't let you retire early...

With company match I put 17% into my 401k, both my wife and I have Roth IRAs, and we have about 4 months of normal expenses in cash savings. Not too bad for a couple 23 year olds...

The most important thing for anybody, especially a first year regional pilot, is to STAY OUT OF DEBT!

What he said!


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