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Old 07-11-2007, 06:13 PM   #11  
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I heard third hand something about a guy who was with SWA, did the reserve thing once a month, missed too many trips with SWA during his first year there and they fired him. After a lawyer and court got involved, he's back at SWA, and is "happy as can be" or something to that affect.

Regardless of the protections afforded reservists, how does the industry overall view guys who get hired, then go off for reserve duty not long after being hired, and then come back 90, 180, 360 days later? At this point in my career, I'd be crazy to not take the reserve retirment, and it would be fairly easy for me to get hired by a regional, jump in with a reserve unit and get activated for 90 or 180 days, perhaps more, and then go back to the regional with a little bit more seniority. I would consider that gaming the game, and assume the airlines see through that as well, even if legally there's not much they can do about it.

I guess what I'm getting at is that, legally, they could wait the 5 years required by law to fire me, and then when I try to get another job, I find myself blackballed...

It's REAL hard to fire a reservist for being gone...they can't fire you just for being gone, and if you're not there it's pretty hard for you to do something that WOULD justify firing you.

The five year limit has NUMEROUS exclusions...

- Initial military training
- Initial and follow on skill training
- Drill weekends
- Annual Training
- Involuntary Recalls (even if you volunteer, the orders will normally be written as "involuntary" to protect you)
- Contingency operations (almost anything that any branch of the armed services has done since 12SEP2001 counts as contingency)
- Other stuff I'm forgetting.

Don't worry about the five year thing, it will never apply.

Like Slice said, It would be better form to complete training and fly the line for a while before leaving, but if that's not practical, oh well. Don't inconvenience yourself for a regional... they don't have your best interests at heart in most cases, so do what's best for you. Who has the better retirement? See my point?
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:37 PM   #12  
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47, get that RJ job first if you can. You'll be at Rucker for a LONG time - almost 2 years right now. Remember you'll only have a year to get to RL1 when you get home - pretty much impossible as a regional new hire unless you, your domicile, and your unit are all in the same place. Good luck.
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:54 AM   #13  
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Thank God there is another Rotor-Head on here....

You are most, right through, Sir, and that is exactly what i am worried about....the "IF's"

My orders for Rucker will be a little more than 26 months (!) due to IP shortages in both the TH67, and the CH47. So, I get stuck in the draw at B CO, ....hanging out and doing the whole hurry up and wait thing.

I read here on APC that one of the airlines was offering choice of base / equipment when you hired on. Since I am in Seattle, I think the closest thing I could get would be ONT, or LAX.

Back to researching.....
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:00 AM   #14  
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I'm not sure where you're thinking of for the FE/SO job but those seats are becoming fewer and fewer, while at the same time, occupied more and more by over 60 guys.
It always saddens me to hear that FE's are becoming fewer. I've been studying dads old Zweng manual as I am thinking of getting the FE rating to broaden my knowledge and add something prehistoric to the resume. Plus, I would be the third FE in the family.

I forgot the original posters name but I too have a love affair with the old 747-100/200. Good old steam gauges, JT9Ds, Flight Engineer..... Truely a mans' airplane! Would be nice to fly one someday.

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Old 07-12-2007, 07:27 AM   #15  
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I might say the hell with it, go get the FEX out of the way and put the feelers out to Cargo360. If I get an interview, great, it will be my first. Plus, I hear that all the technical interviews with the airlines come out of the ATP book so I might be a little better prepared.
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