Can you tell if they want you?
 

Noticed something today, AWAC is flying me out to DC positive space, whereas ASA is flying me down to ATL S3, and claims if you get bumped, "you get bumped" it's your problem. Interesting how the dynamics work, I know one thing for sure, I will be in DC, god forbid any bad weather occurs, but on the other hand I might not make it to ATL. Who wants me more? lol

Thats awesome bro, AWAC gave me space available for the Interview. And now u guys dont even do a sim. thats a good deal. Reserve is looking like less than a month here. all the guys in the 5/28 class are holding lines...its awesome:cool:

I think the PS vs. S3 is just how the company works - which clues you in to how they will treat you as an employee!

not necassarily... pinnacle positive spaces you to the interview but skywest made my buddy fly standby, and they lost his luggage... :D

and according to alot of people skywest is better than pinnacle. i just think we are more desperate for pilots.

Oooh... careful with that because that's what companies WANT you to think...

I don't think there's a logic in any of this!! For the Republic interview they flew me space available with a connection in Charlotte...of course there was NOTHING available...had to sleep one night at Baggage Claim to fly out the next morning...really sucked!! For PSA I flew space positive, was even booked First Class???!!! Still didn't get the job. American Eagle was space available aswell...and I actually got "bumped" of the plane...not funny, very humiliating!! At least there I got the job...I guess you just get a little taste of what your future might be like when you are going from inteview to interview...take it or leave it, right??

It seems like all the Delta connection carriers are S3 - Comair, ASA, Skywest.. and NWA (Pinnacle, Mesaba), US Airways subsidiaries (PSA, PDT, even non-wholly owned like AWAC) are positive space. The only company I interviewed with that was S3 was Comair.. and I missed my first interview date because of it, after standing by like 10 hrs at the airport. The ticket counter agent was like, "they're interviewing you for a pilot position and didn't positive space you?? :confused:"

They didn't PS me but they gave me an S2. None of the flights I attempted to get on had any other S2s so I got on first (tons of S3s though). However the two flights out of DAB I got bumped off were both oversold. I got there late at night but I never would have gotten there if I had been an S3.

Not to rub it in or anything, but when interviewing for an internship for AA they flew me first class.

Too Late! Hahaha. That is pretty sweet though.

Weird, they positive spaced everyone in my interview group.

If XJT would have flown me out to Houston space available, I'd still be waiting.

Did the same thing for me, but I think @ skywest PS just puts you ahead of the no-revs (so its really just a high priority SA). The only time you can't be bumped by paying passengers is deadheading TO a work assignment (you can be bumped on a deadhead home). If this is wrong, please correct me. (and yes I have been bumped while holding a "NRPS" ticket).

No SKW has been doing positive space for some time now...We're a bit short on pilots too.

True story. Trans States couldn't PS me in for the interview...I lived far away from anywhere they flew. I was interviewing the Monday after Thanksgiving last year, and I figured I would NEVER have gotten to the interview had I taken the space-available. Sooo...I figured I didn't want to not be in the right place at the right time, so I up and packed my apartment into my car, gave my notice, and drove 2500 miles to interview LoL...

About half-way through the drive I looked at all my crap in the car and realized I was NOT going to drive all the way back home haha. But I was fairly confident I'd do just fine (hence the radical move)...and did end up getting the job. The rest is history.

Don't think that Lisa got you a first class seat. She booked you A12 just like everyone else. You just got really lucky that nobody wanted to upgrade and there was at least one seat left for you.

Cape Air will reimburse you for airfare to the interview and give you a nice hotel room. If they can do it why not these others?? The thing is we are being reconditioned as a pilot work force to accept lower expectations. I recently backed out of an interview with one of those low cost bottom feeder airlines because they were not willing to do anything to accommodate travel and expense. (and no, I prefer not to name the company)

Mesaba sent me home first class called two weeks later with a job and the declared bankruptcy

This is the problem with the younger pilots........ IN my day we had 2,000 hours, got in our car and drove a day in advance, paid for our own hotel and made sure we were where we needed to be for the interview. No one owes you anything and you're lucky that you even have an interview so Cowboy the F*ck up and show up on time and stop whinning.

Actually, don't. I want you to go to AWAC so I don't have to fly with your premadona ***.

Hombley,

Stick

Haha yeah you're right still pretty cool though. Havent thanked you yet for your help since the intvw. It was spot on and she was a really nice person. I find out Monday if I get it or not.

YGBSM!

"In your day" folks paid $10,000 to FlightSafety to get trained on the Saab or Brasilia or Metro or Bandit or Jetstream...does that make pay-for-training acceptable? Does that mean everybody should do it? Only in the airlines would somebody apply to a company in the middle of a recruitment shortfall and get tapped for an interview, only to be told they aren't guaranteed transportation to and from the interview.

I've done one Part 91 interview and got a full Y fare on American, paid Marriott, rental car, and reimbursed for all out-of-pocket expenses. Didn't get the job but I sure as hell wish I had...wouldn't have to work in such a tight-ass industry where people are so blindly accepting of draconian recruitment and retention policies.

Ooooooooooo.. he might have busted you there stick. When I was getting hired the only companies that weren't pay for training in one form or another was Mesaba and Eagle. and 2000 hrs was low. I went to Eagle and paid dearly for my principles in the form of upgrade time. I wouldn't change a thing.:cool:

Interview Flights
 

I have an interview with XJT on July 17 travel positive space (Listed for First Class). In addition an interview on July 21 but need to fly out night before for AWAC on US AIRWAYS mainline space available..................? What is wrong with this picture?

I SERIOUSLY DOUBT you've been listed positive space first class! They're not going to tell someone wanting to buy a last minute first class ticket (lots of money) "sorry we're sold out. we did have a seat but there's this guy with 300 hrs and a temporary commercial certificate that our non subsidiary connection carrier needs to interview":rolleyes:

One of the best experiences of my life. World's largest airline is pretty cool to be a part of even if you are just an intern.

Can someone please educate me on this S3, S2, A12, Positive Space, Standby. I'm not at the airlines yet so I don't know any of this jargon.

It's how airlines prioritize their non-revenue passengers (non-revs). Delta uses S1, S2, S3, S3a, etc. S1 being high priority standby, (space available). PS is positive space, it's almost as if they gave you an actual ticket. You have a seat assigned to you and everything. Catch is, that paying passengers always have priority. So if the flight is oversold, or an earlier flight gets canceled, it's useless. Other airlines have different ways of doing it but it's still similar.

Positive space is just that - you have a seat on the airplane, and if necessary a paying passenger will be denied boarding so that you positively have a seat. Positive space is also sometimes called "must ride".

For my interview at AWAC in 2005 I had the option of positive space to MKE on Airways or space available on United to ATW; I chose positive space to MKE and rented a car. I made it to the interview (even after running my rental off US41 in a snowstorm) while those traveling NRSA (non-revenue space available) on United got stuck overnight at ORD.

At some airlines there's a difference and 'must ride' actually has priority over positive space since there may be different classifications of it.

yeah it was about 3 years ago.

He might be "Added To First Class Standby List". When I interviewed at XJT, I was added to the FC standby list and actually got it. Still positive space... you're just the last to get FC after the last min pax, upgradeable elites and other upgrades.

Not at Continental or Delta

I know CAL has a separate "Must Ride" Category, no clue about Delta.