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Zoot Suit 07-18-2007 07:54 AM

Plane Skids Off Colombia Runway
 
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) - A plane carrying 59 people skidded off a wet runway and into the Caribbean Sea in Colombia, causing minor injuries to seven, aviation officials said.

The Brazilian-made Embraer 190 plane operated by operated by Aero Republica was carrying 54 passengers and five crew members from Cali to Santa Marta, a tourist destination on Colombia's north coast.
After landing Tuesday at Simon Bolivar Airport, it skidded along the wet tarmac and slid halfway into the water, civil air authority spokesman Martin Gonzalez told The Associated Press. The plane was evacuated. Aero Republica is a subsidiary of Copa, Panama's national airline.

oldveedubs 07-18-2007 08:08 AM

Past couple days have not been the time to fly in S. America!

DON*T HATE ERAU 07-18-2007 08:13 AM

I'm glad nobody got seriously hurt. Santa Marta is a beautiful place in Colombia. Here's a picture I was able to find for those that prefer the visual version.
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/Varios/Ga...acion_id=16922

Hey how come the spoilers are not up?? I see they had the reverse thrust on and full flaps down.

rickair7777 07-18-2007 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by DON*T HATE ERAU (Post 197731)
I'm glad nobody got seriously hurt. Santa Marta is a beautiful place in Colombia. Here's a picture I was able to find for those that prefer the visual version.
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/Varios/Ga...acion_id=16922

Hey how come the spoilers are not up?? I see they had the reverse thrust on and full flaps down.

They may have malfunctioned...there are a lot of sensors that all have to agree to deploy ground lift-dumpers, cuz you sure as h*ll don't want them to deploy in flight. If one of the sensors malfunctioned, the GLD's would fail safe which means not deployed. Such a malfunction could contribute to (but not cause) a runway over-run.

More likely the GLD's auto-retracted following the "landing" after a set period of time like they are supposed to do.

DON*T HATE ERAU 07-18-2007 08:29 AM

How much of that airplane you think will be fixed or will it be considered totalled and become property of the insurance company? Most of it looks ok except for the nose, it looks kind of wrinkled. I think it'll be back flying in no time.

The dude 07-18-2007 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by DON*T HATE ERAU (Post 197731)
I'm glad nobody got seriously hurt. Santa Marta is a beautiful place in Colombia. Here's a picture I was able to find for those that prefer the visual version.
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/Varios/Ga...acion_id=16922

Hey how come the spoilers are not up?? I see they had the reverse thrust on and full flaps down.

If it's anything like the ERJ the automatic groundspoilers only deploy with wheel speeds above 25 kts. They will auto-stow when slower than that.

btwissel 07-18-2007 10:34 AM

also, if the hydraulics have no power, the spoilers retract to a nearly stowed position.

so if the engines and apu were shut down (which seems likely after the water they injested from the ocean) then the spoilers would've fallen back to the stowed position

flynavyj 07-18-2007 11:31 AM

and whats this i see on the news this morning, about another south american airplane that hit a building (i think on the ground) after it went off the other end of a runway...but thatone i heard like 200 died. :(

Hayduke 07-18-2007 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by btwissel (Post 197834)
also, if the hydraulics have no power, the spoilers retract to a nearly stowed position.

so if the engines and apu were shut down (which seems likely after the water they injested from the ocean) then the spoilers would've fallen back to the stowed position

And lastly, isn't it pretty common for qrh's to require manual disarming of GLD's during evacuation?

Diver Driver 07-18-2007 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by DON*T HATE ERAU (Post 197737)
How much of that airplane you think will be fixed or will it be considered totalled and become property of the insurance company? Most of it looks ok except for the nose, it looks kind of wrinkled. I think it'll be back flying in no time.

Depends on how extensive the damage is. Many times there is damage that is not visible to the eye until an in depth examination is conducted. More than likely it will fly again if it is minor enough.


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