What makes republic "top tier"?
 

from the "beyond payscales and guarantees" thread it appears there's no trip/duty rig or daily guarantee... so why is it up there with skywest and xjt which have those?

I'm on reserve and I have a daily guarantee of 4hrs. If they make anyone sit hot reserve you get 5hrs though that doesn't happen. The work rules are pretty good. We have the "illusion" of being protected by our union. While they have faults they do have victories as well. The company tried to bypass several people and the union took care of it. If that happened at SKW you'd be up a creek.

XJT has the same woe's we have. There are always those that like where they are and those that don't. Same here. Some people would complain if you hung them with a new rope. People who haven't ever held a real backbreaking job.

Got me stumped too. I think because some have decided that growth and upgrade time are as important as pay and work rules...even though growth and upgrade potential are moving targets whose past performance does not reflect future results. Personally, I'd rather be an FO for an extra year or 2 at a place I like working than be miserable as a captain at a place I hate. News flash folks: there are TONS of guys at the regionals running around with thousands of hours of T-PIC. And it's not because they haven't been trying to move on.

Plus some guys think they're cool if they get to fly the E170 cause it looks like a 737 that shrunk in the wash:D

But there could still theoretically be a (line not reserve)pairing that's 4 days, 2 1 hour trips flying time on each day with 6 hours of waiting in between each flight hour and the compensation is still just 8 hours over the 4 days?

HAHAHA the MIGHTY E170! Being better than Trans States does not make you top tier.

Don't hate, congratulate.

Congratulate what? Maybe Republic pilots should be celebrating the same pay for a "bigger" airplane. Top Tier........huh

For the sake of argument, we are the highest (or next to highest) paid 70+ seat operator aside from Horizon. On a side note, if you do decide to RSVP, I'll let you get your picture taken in the 170...

RAH 175 10 yr CA = $88/hour
AE 700 10 yr CA = $82/hour
RAH 170 10 yr CA = $80/hour
Compass 175 10 yr CA = 80/hour
SKW 700/900 10 yr CA = $78/hour
Mesa 900 10 yr CA = $78/hour

So since we don't have trip/duty rigs, we're not allowed to be top tier; I guess I'll have to cry myself to sleep again tonight. You should also know that our current pay rates were set 4 years ago when the 170s were just a twinkle in BB's eye. Hopefully the next contract will be done within a year.

Id rather have my picture taken in a "real 737"

As would I... so with all this high and mighty talk, who is it that you work for?

We're talking about which regional is the best?! Guess what being the fastest runner at the Special Olympics makes you?

Personally, I could careless where my company ranks amongst people that don't work here. If you would like to work here, I'd be more than happy to discuss what is good and bad about the company I work for. Personally, the trip rigs/duty rigs don't bother me all that much. If that is something that is very important to you...don't work here. If you don't like the 70 seat payscale, again...don't work here. The people that ARE working here DO care and are doing their BEST to make this a great place to work. However, if an XJT FO or a SKW CA want to talk about how horrible this company is...have at it. But truth be told, anyone can find a LOT of things wrong with ANY regional. I hear horror stories from my best friend (who happens to be at XJT) almost everyday. So while I will defend my company when some anonymous poster makes a crack at where I choose to work...don't think that I'm losing any sleep on where you think my company ranks in your life. Mainly because I know that in one form or another, you ALL put up with the same crap we do, it's just got a different name.

We can outpray you.
Bitches.

yup. doesn't happen though.

Guys/gals we need to stop bashing each other, and playing my airplane is better than yours, lets support each other and work together to make each regional from Mesa, to Expressjet, to Colgan a better place to work.............

...and sit around the camp fire holding hands, singing "Coombiya" or "Hakuna Matata."

We love you SAAB...:D

cool, thanks for the info TD.

Everyone flying for the regionals, we all have the same S.T.D.

You might not love it; you might not have even wanted it; but even though some of them are better than others, in the long run if you just have a positive attitude they are much easier to live with!!!

:D

Np. It doesn't pay for the company not to utilize you all they can. I've only seen that happen one time and it was a Mesa captain.

i guess this place is considered top tier cause it has decent work rules, good pay, and decent upgrade time (althought that can change). also it seems that they might actually care about some of their pilots. people also seem happier here. there arent many flow backs/jets for jobs or what ever you call them here so everyone isnt ****ed at another guy whose just trying to put food on the table. Maybe even theres a little bit of pride flying a mini scare bus, i wouldnt know but maybe.

Well, RAH mgmt has shown they don't give a damn about their pilot group.

After reading the update your union sent out yesterday, I'd say the company's support of your pilot group is a resounding ZERO...kinda like most other places.

Also I thought there were at least couple dozen J4J guys at RAH?

It seems like no one ever gets sick of this "my regional is better than your regional" thread.

EVERY regional has something that the other doesn't have, and that is what should be the deciding factor when you decide to apply for a job. SkyWest doesn't have a union. If you feel a union is important, go somewhere that has one. RAH has a commuter policy, SkyWest doesn't. If you are going to commute and feel that is important, go somewhere that has a commuter policy. Mesa and Trans States hire at 250, if you have 250 and don't mind being abused, go to those two. If you want to be properly compensated, but don't want to upgrade for six years, go to Horizon. If you enjoyed being hated and made fun of as a kid, go to gojet.

Every regional has some little niche that in the eye of worker makes it better than the other. Trans States has a better drop policy than SkyWest, but they are far from being a comparison to SkyWest.

Please just leave the "my regional is better than your regional" conversation alone. I am happy at SkyWest flying for less than what Horizon, XJet, RAH, etc., is paid. Big ... deal.

I think anyone who has gone from Mesa or Trans States to another regional will consider the latter airline "top tier"!

Where did you get a copy of that update?

From one of the 50+ folks I know that work there...

a couple of dozen is nothing compared to the hundreds of flow backs i had at eagle

Where is that picture of the kid winning the special olympics... it reminds me of this arguement. Even if you're the best regional, youre still retarded

The J4J guys are about to leave which is a good thing. Will open another 70 or so captain slots. The union is the union. They make a few wins. LIke I said, some guys would complain if you hung them with a new rope. I find our pilot group to very a tightly knit one that keeps the pressure on the company better than the union does. I almost hate to say this but republicpilots.org is the best thing we've got. Makes it easier to trade trips, swap days off, grievance something, find someone to help with an issue etc.

I feel the answer is simple. RAH is top tier because they are still raising the industry standard instead of sitting at it or lowering it. Our contract is old and didn't include 170's. The new one should and I think we'll be happy with it.

I've never bashed RAH, its pilots or the CBA there, although I have commented many times on how I greatly lament the FO b-scale there, especially for 50+ seats. I wanted to work at RAH for no less than 3 full years for QOL reasons, including my first 8 months at AWAC, and I have several dozen friends in both seats at all three certificates there.

CHQ pilots made some serious sacrifices in 2003 to secure one list scope (the benefit of which has been made clear) and yet improved their pay and workrules in one of, if not the, most difficult negotiating environment in airline history.

With all that said, simply I fail to see how your 2003 CBA is "still raising the industry standard". This is not a bash on your company or pilot group...but I would like you to provide some examples to justify that statement.