My god what a horrible reflection of the company for the 'boss' to say something as retarded as that. What an as*hole:mad:. I am not an employee of Mesa, but just as an aviator, that really grinds mt gears:mad:

Oh but he does. I cant find it right now but I have a news article where he talks about how we are losing pilots to other airlines due to "predatory" hiring practices like giving signing bonuses (Mesa gives 5000$ for UAL experience! Sign up now! ....isnt that predatory?) and because the Majors are hiring. Wait...then why is it 80-90 a month and 70% are FO's with a year or less?

...for the record, ERJ Driver made that quote up...not that JO would not say something similar, but that quote was fabricated...

The attrition at Mesa is an even 50/50 of FO's and CA's. And yes, the vast majority of FO's have less than one year on property...and I don't blame any of the Mesa pilots for jumping ship!

On the bright side, our billboards are helping to bring our stock price down!!! And we all know who that hurts the most! :D

I know im going to RAH at the end of the month and most of my friends are too. I only know a few CA that are leaving here soon. Its also funny, did you see our bid for IAD 0710? 68 FOs and 74 hard lines. Its funny, they even took me off the roster already. Wonder if ill even get an exit interview.

For sure do your ALPA exit interview. We want to know honestly why you are leaving.

You honestly even have to ask???

Yeah, what possible reason could you have to leave Mesa and come to Republic?! :rolleyes:

LOL thats what I was thinking. Im sure they know. Im just hoping the CP will be in so I can give all my stuff back and hopefully see my last pay.

I dont think they have that kind of time on they're hands. The list is too long.

MAG Alpa has been using testimonials from their exit interviews to counter management claims that unsatisfied pilots leaving Mesa are "isolated incidents". I know it sounds like a pain, and that Alpa surely knows why you are leaving- but be honest and give them the whole story- this is your chance to "get it off your shoulders" and give it back to management. Make sure to finish it before your last day otherwise you will not be able to get on to the MAG Alpa website.

Have fun at the new airline! I am sure you will find a lot more job satisfaction over there.


By the way...
Mesa has been pulling pilots out of recurrent ground schools to cover open flying. A friend in CLT just called and told me this! Another friend a couple of months ago was actually pulled out of the classroom, put on a ferry flight CR900 with a bunch of other pilots, and flown to ORD on an emergency mission to cover flying.

Guys, it is bad and not getting any better at Mesa. I hope we still have an airline in 6 months. I am now beginning to worry that there will be a "downgrade" due to junior attrition. The first sign will be if they cancel upgrade groundschools scheduled for Sept-Oct...

Yikes!

I have actually never been to the mag alpa site, if you could PM me with some info.


....And that was a -200 that went to ORD and was almost FULL of crews to cover UAL flying. Airways wasnt happy, we always said we wouldnt cannibalize our Airways crews for our UAL stuff...tsk,tsk will MAG be operational in the US in a year?

MAG is on a fast road (airway) to death. I do praise the pilots for walking/ choosing another airline. It's an easy decision for some while a difficult decision for others, those with senority.

One thing I have learned in my several careers, it's just not worth it (no matter where you stand in line - read senority #) to take abuse. Especially the kind that JO dishes out.

Many of the other regionals as well as nationals and majors are welcoming MESA pilots. I have atually heard through the grapevine that MESA is calling most of the regional airlines and telling them to stop stealing (hiring) their pilots. The response: Treat your pilots better and they may not leave.

If I were a MESA pilot wanting to leave to a REGIONAL, I would send my resume to SkyWest and Republic. These are the two companies that will benefit the most if MESA goes under. UAL flying will have to be covered and these two companies can find the means to do it. The other UAX carriers . . .I think would have a difficult time.

I'm sure the FAA is going to have a "COW" when they find out guys are not going through recurrent. The fire is getting hotter for JO. His Castle (Sand Castle) is washing away.

I am truly sorry for the guys who have put in the time at MESA only to possibly lose what they have worked years to achieve. However, I can truly say that your services can and will be better compensated, and your QOL will be greatly improved with ANY kind of move. Believe me, others are ready and waiting to welcome you.

It just pains me to see ORD MESA pilots sit on the tarmac for days on end, knowing they are only going to get paid for :32 for a flight from ORD to ATW though they are sitting with doors closed for hours!!!

They can always do RGS in their grace month...

Folks may absolutely hate MAG management, but I doubt they'd knowingly allow pilots to miss RGS and dequal, costing them available pilots to fly the schedule.

I've seen more backpacks at UPS and FedEx than I have ever seen at Mesa. Do you want to throw stones at either UPS or FedEx and call "us" unprofessional?

Go ahead...throw some more kindling under that bridge your burning....

Just my .02

BRAVO on this post!!!

I can see you've never actually worked at mesa...or you wouldn't have said that. :eek:

A buddy of mine worked there about 11 years ago. They were running short on F/O's. So everyone in his upgrade class was pinked in their oral. All on the third question. Instead of asking them to put upgrade off for a couple of months. Nice way to treat employees isnt it. Didnt hurt him though hes at American now.

That's typical. It's sad that I'm not even surprised...

Whats more of a sad case about MAG is that he left over the isuue. He sent them a resigmnation letter and they continued to pay him his guarantee for and additional year that he wasnt even there.

I have heard of that happening back in the day when they ran payroll with index cards, lol.

I know a guy who was sent TDY on reserve to some little turboprop domicile in New England...crew tracking promptly forgot about him, but payroll did not. He collected guarantee and per diem for several months, and then realized that he wasn't going to get called, so he went home. This lasted for a year...when they finally called him, he got off the hook because he hadn't flown an airplane in 12 months so he could not accept the reserve assignment :D They had to send him back to the sim...

Its amazing that they stay in business being as screwed up as they are. What is truely sad is that with a good business plan and quality management they could be a top level operator.

Did you hear the one about the b1900 dude that did not get a paycheck? He filed a suit in local court and got the cops to put chains on the props. of the aircraft. He was pretty much overnighted his check at that point. It was in the papers. I would love to find the article. I don't know the base or even an approximate date...

There was also the chief pilot memo that demanded pilots not stand in line for food stamps in uniform. I would frame this one for the wall.

:mad:

First off, anyone that would get chains locked on the props of one of Mesa's aircraft should never have to buy another beer for themselves, ever.

Secondly, I like the idea of wearing the uniform to the state office for getting set up on food stamps. Screw the chief pilots memo. I say go for it.