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Prop Vs. Jet, your opinion!
Is there any advantage to flying a regional jet versus a regional prop? I chose Mesaba over a few other jet carriers, did I make a mistake? Not to mention, I love the Saab!
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Whichever one allows you to fill out the PIC column the quickest is the best.
Then there are alway Pay, QOL, etc to worry about. |
If it comes to just flying...it is hard to beat flying turboprops. Sure jets are neat for a few hundred hours. but all you do is sit in cruise. Some may think i am nuts. But I miss the multi leg days where you get to have landing contest with the other pilot and can actually have fun at work.
As for Jet time vs Prop. In most cases who cares as long as it is PIC time. |
Originally Posted by skid
(Post 214377)
If it comes to just flying...it is hard to beat flying turboprops. Sure jets are neat for a few hundred hours. but all you do is sit in cruise. Some may think i am nuts. But I miss the multi leg days where you get to have landing contest with the other pilot and can actually have fun at work.
As for Jet time vs Prop. In most cases who cares as long as it is PIC time. |
It's all about the hours. Dojet is right, if you can upgrade then that is the airplane you want. Unless you don't mind being whereever you land first.
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Another one of these threads! Yes!
Whatever gets you the PIC fastest is definitely the best answer. But if you really want to know... ;) Never flew an RJ, but I'm sure it wasn't much different than my Maddog, save a few hundred thousand pounds. But nothing will ever compare to the Mighty Beech 1900 Super Extended-Cab King Air. :D Besides, everybody flies RJs, do something original. :D (Sarcasm alert in full effect please) |
It all depends on what your goals are. Props are great, you get a couple more levers, a lot of hand flying and you'll do well in any interview sim that has steam gauges. Irronicly airlines like Continental and Cathay discount Turbo Prop time.
But overall Props rock. Why else does ASA pays their right seat prop drivers $3 more an hour than 200 fos? |
What class date are you in? I am in the 9/24 which has 15 Saab slots and 15 CRJ slots. Man I hope I get the Saab!! The suspense is killing me. :)
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Originally Posted by Squawk_5543
(Post 214520)
What class date are you in? I am in the 9/24 which has 15 Saab slots and 15 CRJ slots. Man I hope I get the Saab!! The suspense is killing me. :)
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
(Post 214512)
It all depends on what your goals are. Props are great, you get a couple more levers, a lot of hand flying and you'll do well in any interview sim that has steam gauges. Irronicly airlines like Continental and Cathay discount Turbo Prop time.
But overall Props rock. Why else does ASA pays their right seat prop drivers $3 more an hour than 200 fos? |
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
(Post 214577)
Because it's a bigger plane.
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Originally Posted by bizzum
(Post 214585)
Do you get paid more to fly that 900? After all, it is a bigger plane...
Hehe...ouch! |
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
(Post 214577)
Because it's a bigger plane.
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
(Post 214512)
It all depends on what your goals are. Props are great, you get a couple more levers, a lot of hand flying and you'll do well in any interview sim that has steam gauges. Irronicly airlines like Continental and Cathay discount Turbo Prop time.
I know, stupid. But thats what it says. Minimums: ATPw 1,500 fixed-wing TT 1,000 fw PIC,OR 500 PIC and 500 SIC in turbojet 1,000 fw turbine 1,000 fw ME or 1,000 SE military fighter jet First class medical Bachelor's degree ("highly desired") |
Originally Posted by md11phlyer
(Post 214426)
Another one of these threads! Yes!
Whatever gets you the PIC fastest is definitely the best answer. I'm still unsure myself, if I made the right decision... how this will affect my career, if at all... for example, do majors prefer turboprop or turbofan all else being equal (and I think that one question is something only a recruiter for that specific company can answer.) This seems to be the general consensus when I asked the prop v. jet question to other pilots... the experienced people (even the RJ drivers themselves) say "it's all the same, an airplane is an airplane." the younger people tend to side with RJs. I've spoken to some major pilots about it, and the majority of major pilots tell me the same thing MD11 said.. whichever allows you to log PIC faster.. and also that I will gain much better experience having to fly a prop in the wx. i believe that part, after all they have like 30 years of experience on me! but then again, old timers in general seem to hold more reverance for props than RJs when it comes to fresh pilots just starting out. I still have no opinion on whether it was the right decision... certainly there are several things about RJs I envy (like going to farther destinations) but a 5 year RJ guy told me, it's just longer time in cruise twiddling your thumb, and they usually dont even get to step outside of the plane at those "exotic" destinations because of 20 minute turns. i dont know if that makes me feel better though about not being able to leave the northeast. |
Originally Posted by kalyx522
(Post 214687)
lol I know right, it seems this same thread came up like just two days ago.
I'm still unsure myself, if I made the right decision... how this will affect my career, if at all... for example, do majors prefer turboprop or turbofan all else being equal (and I think that one question is something only a recruiter for that specific company can answer. This seems to be the general consensus when I asked the prop v. jet question to other pilots... the experienced people (even the RJ drivers themselves) say "it's all the same, an airplane is an airplane." the younger people tend to side with RJs. I've spoken to some major pilots about it, and the majority of major pilots tell me the same thing MD11 said.. whichever allows you to log PIC faster.. and also that I will gain much better experience having to fly a prop in the wx. i believe that part, after all they have like 30 years of experience on me! but then again, old timers in general seem to hold more reverance for props than RJs when it comes to fresh pilots just starting out. I still have no opinion on whether it was the right decision... certainly there are several things about RJs I envy (like going to farther destinations) but a 5 year RJ guy told me, it's just longer time in cruise twiddling your thumb, and they usually dont even get to step outside of the plane at those "exotic" destinations because of 20 minute turns. i dont know if that makes me feel better though about not being able to leave the northeast. Sadly, all things are not equal, nor are ever going to be in this business. Whats going to matter after you have logged the all important PIC time is going to be WHO YOU KNOW. Look at all the guys that have been hired at SW, FedEx, UPS, etc with no turbo jet experience. What do you think got them there? |
Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
(Post 214593)
Bigger ha? yeah take a look at your paycheck how big is that
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
(Post 214698)
Sadly, all things are not equal, nor are ever going to be in this business. Whats going to matter after you have logged the all important PIC time is going to be WHO YOU KNOW. Look at all the guys that have been hired at SW, FedEx, UPS, etc with no turbo jet experience. What do you think got them there?
Kidding aside, it is very true though |
CAL will hire a King Air driver over a 10 yr RJ CA if he or she knows the right person(s)
Just my opinion and observation, but I think that turboprop time is just as good as turbofan time IF you have a good connection. However, if you have no jet time AND no contact you will have a much harder time finding a job. |
Originally Posted by kalyx522
(Post 214687)
lol I know right, it seems this same thread came up like just two days ago.
I'm still unsure myself, if I made the right decision... how this will affect my career, if at all... for example, do majors prefer turboprop or turbofan all else being equal (and I think that one question is something only a recruiter for that specific company can answer.) This seems to be the general consensus when I asked the prop v. jet question to other pilots... the experienced people (even the RJ drivers themselves) say "it's all the same, an airplane is an airplane." the younger people tend to side with RJs. I've spoken to some major pilots about it, and the majority of major pilots tell me the same thing MD11 said.. whichever allows you to log PIC faster.. and also that I will gain much better experience having to fly a prop in the wx. i believe that part, after all they have like 30 years of experience on me! but then again, old timers in general seem to hold more reverance for props than RJs when it comes to fresh pilots just starting out. I still have no opinion on whether it was the right decision... certainly there are several things about RJs I envy (like going to farther destinations) but a 5 year RJ guy told me, it's just longer time in cruise twiddling your thumb, and they usually dont even get to step outside of the plane at those "exotic" destinations because of 20 minute turns. i dont know if that makes me feel better though about not being able to leave the northeast. All else being equal (say you could upgrade on the jet and the prop at the same time) RJ experience would be somewhat better because glass/turbofans are what you fly at the majors, so you are a better training risk. They probably don't care if you flew the jet as an FO or CA, as long as you flew it. |
Originally Posted by dojetdriver
(Post 214698)
Whats going to matter after you have logged the all important PIC time is going to be WHO YOU KNOW. Look at all the guys that have been hired at SW, FedEx, UPS, etc with no turbo jet experience. What do you think got them there?
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another duplicate wth is wrong with me
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oops duplicate
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
(Post 214521)
CTOT Lives on :)
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Clear Prop!!!
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Originally Posted by kalyx522
(Post 214749)
that much is obvious, which is why I didn't even mention it.. I think most of us know that having connections trumps everything.. I was addressing the other aspects of prop. v. fan that I personally have thought about.
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
(Post 214835)
Well, if it was all that obvious to you, you wouldn't have needed to ask any of your questions in the first place.
and going back to that q I wondered about "who would a major prefer all else being equal".. one who has a connection would obviously have an advantage over another whether they are prop or jet driver... yes, even a newbie like me would know that.. if one had connections and the other didn't, they wouldn't fit under "all else being equal." because when people say "all else being equal," they mean "ALL else being equal." my intention of putting "all else being equal" in there was to cover ALL aspects of the candidates, except whether he was a prop or jet driver.. like being equal as in both have same hours, same degree, no connections or similiar connections, same color hair, etc. etc. I just didn't mention what all those equals were word for word and simply said "all else being equal." so YES I definitely agree with you that prop v. jet hardly matters if you have a connection.. but the q was ALL ELSE being equal. nitpicky arent we??? |
Originally Posted by kalyx522
(Post 214920)
what are you talking about, dojet? since I knew that connections are the most important thing.. that means I should have no more questions to ask/think about regarding prop v. jet?
and going back to that q I wondered about "who would a major prefer all else being equal".. one who has a connection would obviously have an advantage over another whether they are prop or jet driver... yes, even a newbie like me would know that.. if one had connections and the other didn't, they wouldn't fit under "all else being equal." because when people say "all else being equal," they mean "ALL else being equal." my intention of putting "all else being equal" in there was to cover ALL aspects of the candidates, except whether he was a prop or jet driver.. like being equal as in both have same hours, same degree, no connections or similiar connections, same color hair, etc. etc. I just didn't mention what all those equals were word for word and simply said "all else being equal." so YES I definitely agree with you that prop v. jet hardly matters if you have a connection.. but the q was ALL ELSE being equal. nitpicky arent we??? In case you missed it, for the most part, there is no "all else being equal" in this business. Well, maybe SW/UPS might be a SLIGHT exception. But if you were to ask recent UPS/SW new hires of class breakdowns, one that didn't have the heavy/trans oceanic requirement in place (UPS), there was probably turbo prop only representation. If I was "nitpicky", I would be busting your balls over poor grammar/sentence structure. |
P.I.C = Prop Is Command
P.I.C.= Prop Is Charge P.I.C.= Prop Is Captain Soon ..!!!!:D SexyJeny;) |
Originally Posted by dojetdriver
(Post 214935)
Um....whatever.
In case you missed it, for the most part, there is no "all else being equal" in this business. Well, maybe SW/UPS might be a SLIGHT exception. But if you were to ask recent UPS/SW new hires of class breakdowns, one that didn't have the heavy/trans oceanic requirement in place (UPS), there was probably turbo prop only representation. If I WERE "nitpicky", I would be busting your balls over poor grammar/sentence structure. and sorry dudeguy, i'll stop hijacking ur thread! |
Originally Posted by dojetdriver
(Post 214698)
Sadly, all things are not equal, nor are ever going to be in this business. Whats going to matter after you have logged the all important PIC time is going to be WHO YOU KNOW. Look at all the guys that have been hired at SW, FedEx, UPS, etc with no turbo jet experience. What do you think got them there?
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Originally Posted by md11phlyer
(Post 215929)
Got news for you, for the guys with turbo jet time it's still WHO YOU KNOW. The only turbo jet time that's going to get you hired any faster comes from a jet with 4 big motors and goes across oceans. Not Super-Challenger or Dork-Jet time.
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I've always wanted to fly a Dash 7
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
(Post 214512)
It all depends on what your goals are. Props are great, you get a couple more levers, a lot of hand flying and you'll do well in any interview sim that has steam gauges. Irronicly airlines like Continental and Cathay discount Turbo Prop time.
But overall Props rock. Why else does ASA pays their right seat prop drivers $3 more an hour than 200 fos? |
Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
(Post 216080)
I've always wanted to fly a Dash 7
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