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Joepa84 08-14-2007 09:46 AM

According to ATW magizine, the 15 CRJs were pulled by NWA because a contract had not been reached yet...HOwever, as stated above with the new Delta flying there will be no major difference with the loss of the CRJs and the addition of the 900's. There is a pretty good article on the company in the August 2007 edition of ATW (there is a picture of a 787 on the cover.) It seems with the purchase of Colgan, they are more stable, and money made there will be invested on the company as a whole... NOW only if they had a contract!

machaf 08-14-2007 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by jsattler01 (Post 214587)
Hating life is nothing new. I think all regionals are the same in crappy work rules. I am just sick of commuting and it seems like a good deal. What about the 15 CRJ's going to Mesaba?

I don't think you understand. Commuting is NOTHING compared to being a reserve captain at Pinnacle. Make your own choice. I'm just warning you.

machaf 08-14-2007 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by XJPILOT1 (Post 214608)
I had 18 days off last month. August; I've worked 5 days so far.

GO MESABA!! :D

I'm lovin' life (and no comuting)

How many years did it take you to get 18 days off?

Life is rough working 3 days a week ain't it?

RJ85FO 08-14-2007 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Past V1 (Post 214616)
Mesaba is great:confused:...isn't there a 3 year seat lock...no chance for upgrading for the kid there

There is not a 3-yr seat lock at Mesaba. New Hires will be under a 3-yr EQUIPMENT lock UNLESS they can hold an upgrade sooner than that. What it means is you cannot be hired into the saab as an FO and in 1 year lateral over to the CRJ as an FO. You CAN upgrade at the first opportunity, even within the 3 year period.

Our upgrade minimums currently require 1000 hours of Mesaba flight time or 2 years with the company whichever comes first. There is no total time requirement other than FAR ATP mins.

PinnacleFO 08-14-2007 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by machaf (Post 214686)
How many years did it take you to get 18 days off?

Life is rough working 3 days a week ain't it?

At mesaba they hire into all 3 planes, so this person probably got lucky and got 900 fo out of training as one of the first ones so he will get the best schedules right out of the bat, better than fo's who have been there for years. I dont particularly like that system, but I dont work there so I dont care. It will be a rude awakening when that person upgrades though.........

Tinpusher007 08-14-2007 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 214711)
At mesaba they hire into all 3 planes, so this person probably got lucky and got 900 fo out of training as one of the first ones so he will get the best schedules right out of the bat, better than fo's who have been there for years. I dont particularly like that system, but I dont work there so I dont care. It will be a rude awakening when that person upgrades though.........

The system is like that because the payrate is the same for all F/O's so there is essentially no junior or senior A/C for F/O's. None of the senior F/O's want the right seat of the -900. And with all the growth, they will be able to hold captain on something. I think I made it into the 2nd -900 F/O class so by the time we get all 36, I think I will be sitting pretty as far as QOL...thats my hope anyway.

Airsupport 08-14-2007 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by machaf (Post 214580)
As a captain you will get abused. You will be on reserve for at least 2 years. They will knock you down to 8 days off. Basically you will turn angry and start hating life.

true, but you will get captain pay and you will get pic so you can move on. no one comes to pinnacle to be a street captain for good qol. that is just stupid.


Originally Posted by jsattler01 (Post 214587)
Hating life is nothing new. I think all regionals are the same in crappy work rules. I am just sick of commuting and it seems like a good deal. What about the 15 CRJ's going to Mesaba?

latest news is the planes are not going to be moved to mesaba, because mesaba said they didn't want them. like i have said before those planes will stay at pinnacle (we don't want them either). but its better for us to have them and not fly them and pay penalties, than it is for them to go back to mainline (mesaba) and not staff them there.


Originally Posted by XJPILOT1 (Post 214608)
I had 18 days off last month. August; I've worked 5 days so far.

GO MESABA!! :D

I'm lovin' life (and no comuting)

yeah, i once had a entire month off... by being bought out for oe.. big deal. when you say stuff like this it gives a false sense of what is really going on. i have 17 days off this month, been here for a little under 2 years, and that is my line, no oe buy off. just be honest and dont give people an inaccurate description of what their lines could be if they went to mesaba.

jsattler01 08-14-2007 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 215058)

latest news is the planes are not going to be moved to mesaba, because mesaba said they didn't want them. like i have said before those planes will stay at pinnacle (we don't want them either). but its better for us to have them and not fly them and pay penalties, than it is for them to go back to mainline (mesaba) and not staff them there.


thanks for the info!!!

XJPILOT1 08-15-2007 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 215058)
true, but you will get captain pay and you will get pic so you can move on. no one comes to pinnacle to be a street captain for good qol. that is just stupid.



latest news is the planes are not going to be moved to mesaba, because mesaba said they didn't want them. like i have said before those planes will stay at pinnacle (we don't want them either). but its better for us to have them and not fly them and pay penalties, than it is for them to go back to mainline (mesaba) and not staff them there.



yeah, i once had a entire month off... by being bought out for oe.. big deal. when you say stuff like this it gives a false sense of what is really going on. i have 17 days off this month, been here for a little under 2 years, and that is my line, no oe buy off. just be honest and dont give people an inaccurate description of what their lines could be if they went to mesaba.

Ok...God wouldn't want to mis-represent:cool:.

11-16 days off, 60-97 credit, 150-345 TAFB. 2day 3day and 4day trips. Hotels from an old army barrack to the Hilton (no Paris). Important thing to realize is most Pilots like flying at Mesaba.

Lighten up Francis!!

XJPILOT1 08-15-2007 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 214711)
At mesaba they hire into all 3 planes, so this person probably got lucky and got 900 fo out of training as one of the first ones so he will get the best schedules right out of the bat, better than fo's who have been there for years. I dont particularly like that system, but I dont work there so I dont care. It will be a rude awakening when that person upgrades though.........

NO...I'm not new and I fly the SAAB. Not sure what makes you think new guys get better scheds then old guys?:confused:


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