Republic, SkyWest
08-28-2007, 06:00 AM
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Republic, SkyWest
As far as living in DEN, which company would make more sense? How soon would I be able to hold DEN at either one and what would be a better option with regards to QOL and schedules, etc. The E170 looks pretty nice, but I'm wondering if the ability to get DEN or COS easier would be a determining factor. How senior is DEN or COS for SkyWest? How about DEN for Republic?
Thanks again for the help guys.
Thanks again for the help guys.
08-28-2007, 06:15 AM
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DEN is going to be pretty senior at Republic. As it stands at this moment, the most junior person out there was hired 5 months ago and there are many more behind him waiting to go out. On the low side, I'd guess 7 months to even get out to DEN for someone hired today.
08-28-2007, 06:32 AM
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Thanks for the quick reply Kilo. I have heard from a few people even in the interviews that they wanted DEN and I get the feeling that I would be commuting to IND or somewhere else for a long time before I could hold DEN.
Speaking as a voice from the inside, what do you think the chances are of holding DEN as a captain an any time in the future? I would assume that is going really senior as well. Maybe 3 or 4 years? With so few airplanes and being the furthest west base for them, it seems like a lot of people want that base and there are not enough spaces to give everyone that.
Speaking as a voice from the inside, what do you think the chances are of holding DEN as a captain an any time in the future? I would assume that is going really senior as well. Maybe 3 or 4 years? With so few airplanes and being the furthest west base for them, it seems like a lot of people want that base and there are not enough spaces to give everyone that.
08-28-2007, 06:56 AM
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Here is some recent Republic news..
Form 8-K for REPUBLIC AIRWAYS HOLDINGS INC
28-Aug-2007
Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement
Item 1.01 Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement.
On August 22, 2007, Republic Airways Holdings Inc. (the "Company") and its wholly-owned subsidiary, Shuttle America Corporation ("Shuttle America"), amended their Jet Services Agreement with Delta Air Lines, Inc. to provide for the replacement of sixteen, 70-seat Embraer 170 aircraft operating as Delta Connection with sixteen 76-seat Embraer 175 aircraft. The new aircraft are expected to be placed into service during the second half of 2008 and the first quarter of 2009.
On August 22, 2007, the Company and Shuttle America amended their Jet Services Agreement with United Air Lines, Inc. to provide for the operation of ten additional 70-seat Embraer 170 aircraft as United Express. The aircraft are expected to be placed into service during the fourth quarter of 2008 and the first quarter of 2009
28-Aug-2007
Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement
Item 1.01 Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement.
On August 22, 2007, Republic Airways Holdings Inc. (the "Company") and its wholly-owned subsidiary, Shuttle America Corporation ("Shuttle America"), amended their Jet Services Agreement with Delta Air Lines, Inc. to provide for the replacement of sixteen, 70-seat Embraer 170 aircraft operating as Delta Connection with sixteen 76-seat Embraer 175 aircraft. The new aircraft are expected to be placed into service during the second half of 2008 and the first quarter of 2009.
On August 22, 2007, the Company and Shuttle America amended their Jet Services Agreement with United Air Lines, Inc. to provide for the operation of ten additional 70-seat Embraer 170 aircraft as United Express. The aircraft are expected to be placed into service during the fourth quarter of 2008 and the first quarter of 2009
08-28-2007, 07:11 AM
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Any idea where those ten 170s are going for United? I'm guessing it on the east coast somewhere. It seems like Republic has the market already there with the bases they have unless they are thinking of expanding their DEN fleet to include an agreement with United... I guess that is a ways off in the future and who really knows. Its anyones guess I suppose.
I'm a little concerned about the DEN based disappearing in the future as Republic changes their structure or its not working out with Frontier. And then I would be left with what, IND as the closest base to DEN?
I'm a little concerned about the DEN based disappearing in the future as Republic changes their structure or its not working out with Frontier. And then I would be left with what, IND as the closest base to DEN?
08-28-2007, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by acepilot100
Any idea where those ten 170s are going for United? I'm guessing it on the east coast somewhere. It seems like Republic has the market already there with the bases they have unless they are thinking of expanding their DEN fleet to include an agreement with United... I guess that is a ways off in the future and who really knows. Its anyones guess I suppose.
I'm a little concerned about the DEN based disappearing in the future as Republic changes their structure or its not working out with Frontier. And then I would be left with what, IND as the closest base to DEN?
I'm a little concerned about the DEN based disappearing in the future as Republic changes their structure or its not working out with Frontier. And then I would be left with what, IND as the closest base to DEN?
08-28-2007, 10:17 AM
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Personally, I'd look at the quality of life and upgrade time for your new carrier. Keep those based in Denver on the top of your list and put those with a one leg commute just below them. Avoid anything to do with IAH, EWR and ORD and you'll most likely have a pretty easy commute. It's okay to shoot for a Denver based carrier. However, if you look for a company based solely on a domicile, you'll be very disappointed if they decide to make a change and move your aircraft to a new, less desired, domicile.
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08-28-2007, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by acepilot100
Any idea where those ten 170s are going for United? I'm guessing it on the east coast somewhere. It seems like Republic has the market already there with the bases they have unless they are thinking of expanding their DEN fleet to include an agreement with United... I guess that is a ways off in the future and who really knows. Its anyones guess I suppose.
I'm a little concerned about the DEN based disappearing in the future as Republic changes their structure or its not working out with Frontier. And then I would be left with what, IND as the closest base to DEN?
I'm a little concerned about the DEN based disappearing in the future as Republic changes their structure or its not working out with Frontier. And then I would be left with what, IND as the closest base to DEN?
www.alpa.org/fdx/jumpseat to view schedules
1-866-357-5711 to list for the jumpseat
FDX FLIGHTS ORIGINATING IN DEN ON 08/29/2007 FLT# DEST DEP-DATE
(Zulu) DEP-TIME ARR-DATE (Zulu) ARR-TIME A/C
1628 IND 08/29/2007 21:15L (03:15Z) 08/29/2007 01:35L (05:35Z) MD10
3608 IND 08/29/2007 07:40L (13:40Z) 08/29/2007 12:00L (16:00Z) MD10
FDX FLIGHTS ARRIVING IN DEN ON 08/29/2007 FLT# ORIGIN DEP-DATE
(Zulu) DEP-TIME ARR-DATE (Zulu) ARR-TIME A/C
1728 IND 08/29/2007 04:30L (08:30Z) 08/29/2007 04:54L (10:54Z) MD10
3708 IND 08/29/2007 16:45L (20:45Z) 08/29/2007 17:20L (23:20Z) MD10
You'll note that you have two very nice departure options..early morning and early evening.
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