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dunlaf05 09-16-2007 05:30 AM

CRJ Type Rating
 
Just curious how the CL-65 Type worked.

Say I get typed on the CRJ-900. What else does that cover? The 200? The Challeger Jet? Surely the -700 right? :confused:

KiloAlpha 09-16-2007 05:32 AM

You would get a CL65 type, not series specific. Then you would get differences training for the 200. 700, and 900 series. The 737 type works under the same principles.

dunlaf05 09-16-2007 05:40 AM

Then it's the same type but training for each series is different. So if trained on the -900 you couldn't jump straight into a -700 without more training?

weasil 09-16-2007 05:43 AM

They all have a common type, the 700 and 900 are identical. The CRJ 200 and the challenger have a mostly common interface (to the 7 and 9) but some of the systems are quite different. The amount of differences training and checking is going to depend on your particular airline and the POI. Technically it is a common type rating.

My first airline required 6 months on the crj200 before they let you fly the 700 and then a differences ground school and PC in the sim.
My current airline has a 1 day differences ground school and 1 sim check which covers you for both the 700 and 900. IOE can be done in any of the variants (or all 3 even) and you are good to go.

dunlaf05 09-16-2007 05:47 AM

Interesting.

Thank you, that answers my question.

BoilerUP 09-16-2007 06:41 AM

The CRJ (CL65) and Challenger (CL601/CL604) require different type ratings.

reelbigchair 09-16-2007 06:52 AM

Someone can obviously correct me if I'm wrong on this but I believe the common type only works one direction. I think you have to get the -200 first, and then you can get qualified -700/-900 through differences. I do not believe you can get -700/-900 and then do differences in the -200.

ghilis101 09-16-2007 12:08 PM

why not? thats more of a company thing. mesa sends their new hires through initial ioe in the 900 sometimes

Slice 09-16-2007 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by ghilis101 (Post 231662)
why not? thats more of a company thing. mesa sends their new hires through initial ioe in the 900 sometimes

True but their initial sim is in the 200. Not saying it has to be that way but it appears to be the norm from what I've seen and heard for RJ operators.

ExperimentalAB 09-16-2007 12:32 PM

Yep it sucks flying as a senior FO in the -700/-900 and then going to Upgrade w/the Sim-Check in the -200 Yikes!

Bid -200 trips for a few months prior to upgrade!!

BlueMoon 09-16-2007 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by reelbigchair (Post 231600)
Someone can obviously correct me if I'm wrong on this but I believe the common type only works one direction. I think you have to get the -200 first, and then you can get qualified -700/-900 through differences. I do not believe you can get -700/-900 and then do differences in the -200.

Not correct

The way that you do training has more to due with the timing of when the aircraft came into service (ie: the 200 was the first to be flown at your particular airline, then they got 700's and then 900's).

So it is cheaper to have the training set up that way, sine they already had a 200 training program, they just made a differences training so you could move up to the 700. Go-jet(there the only airline i know who exclusively has 700's) only has 700's so they most likely don't have a 200 program, just a 700 program.

They could develop an initial program for the 700, but you would have to get it certified and the such by the FAA, so it is a money and time issue.

rickair7777 09-16-2007 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by reelbigchair (Post 231600)
Someone can obviously correct me if I'm wrong on this but I believe the common type only works one direction. I think you have to get the -200 first, and then you can get qualified -700/-900 through differences. I do not believe you can get -700/-900 and then do differences in the -200.

No, you can do your baseline qualification on any of the three, and then complete difference training for any of the others. Most airlines seem to use the 200 as the baseline, since that's what their training programs were originally set up for, and there are more buttons to push on the 200.

The CRJ type does not cover the Challenger, but challenger training would be a breeze for a 200 qualified pilot.

weasil 09-16-2007 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by reelbigchair (Post 231600)
Someone can obviously correct me if I'm wrong on this but I believe the common type only works one direction. I think you have to get the -200 first, and then you can get qualified -700/-900 through differences. I do not believe you can get -700/-900 and then do differences in the -200.

not correct, you can do initial type rating on any of the variants. They did 700 initial at PSA for a few months when i worked there because they were short qualified pilots, also I imagine GOJETS has to do all their training just on the 700 cause that's the only aircraft they have. It is all up to the operator and the POI.

ChickenFlight 09-16-2007 06:38 PM

Eagle is another -700 only operator (thanks for lumping me in with GoJet :mad:). Our program covers the 700 exclusively and we were told from day one that we could do differences for the 900 eventually but never for the 200 because of the way the type rating works.

reelbigchair 09-16-2007 07:38 PM

Jeez, I said someone could correct me, not EVERYONE, damn.... anyway I'm just repeating what a check airmen told me as I was getting my -700 line check.

BlueMoon 09-17-2007 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by ChickenFlight (Post 231814)
Eagle is another -700 only operator (thanks for lumping me in with GoJet :mad:). Our program covers the 700 exclusively and we were told from day one that we could do differences for the 900 eventually but never for the 200 because of the way the type rating works.

Sorry man! Eagle is a good place and is in no way near the category Gojets is in.


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