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Old 09-18-2007, 04:04 AM
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Ok, doeas anyone know anything about this training program besides what they see on the full page adds in aviation magazines? Dont they promise jobs? Then again i guess with any kind of jet experience nowadays, you can get a job. Ive got friends who are still in training an are frustrated...they keep asking me about it..and I have no information. The only training im familiar with is from FlightSafety Academy in VB, Fl. So I tell them all to go there.


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Old 09-18-2007, 04:27 AM
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Don't waste your time and money on worthless highway robbers like Jet University. With the regionals hiring with such low time, there is no need to p*ss your money away. Get your CFI, instruct for about 3 - 6 months, then get hired. Save yourself about $50,000. I did all my training from private to CFI at a mom and pop FBO for less than $30,000, and I got hired at a regional with 460 hours. Don't waste your money.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:43 AM
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From what I've been told before, Jet U's only bridge is Pinnacle. 9E is hiring it seems mostly Jet U guys, considering supposedly they teach Pinnacle procedures only there. But I agree with the previous post. You'd get much better experience and you'd learn to appreciate the 121 job more after flight instructing. You wouldn't stand in awe at all that "IFR stuff we have to do in the winter." (Yes, I've actually heard that one.)
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:54 AM
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Run away from this place. Like the preivous posters said, there is no need to go this path. 3 to 4 years ago may have made some sense, but now, no way. You can get a job almost anywhere without their help.
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:32 AM
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Before anyone says "Run away", consider this: A guy with 194TT and about 5 ME got hired by Pinnacle out of Jet U (disclaimer - I went to Jet U and got hired by PSA).

Do you need to get your CFI? - No
Is it expensive? - Yes
Will you get a job? - So far, 100% yes
Will you be flying a CRJ in about 4 months instead of a C-172? - Yes
Costs $27,000 (last I heard), not $50,000
ATP Written at 80% or better is required for interviewing with Pinnacle, so you will have that done and out of the way

The word I got is that Jet U is less tied to Pinnacle than it was just a few months ago, but that is rumor. A couple of us went to PSA and others are looking at Air Wisconsin. There is (was?) no requirement to interview with Pinnacle, but it was very easy since Pinnacle came out to Jet U to conduct interviews. If you want to go somewhere other than Pinnacle, Jet U will make an introduction and do what they can to get you an interview.

Jet U wasn't airline nirvana, and there were some very frustrating/maddening times for me but, in the end, I started in March and will be flying CRJs in November (I could be flying them now but took some time for family reasons).

The best suggestion I can make is this: What do you want to be doing in 6 months from now, and what are you willing to pay to do it? Yes, CFI'ing pays as much or more than 1st year FO'ing, but you'll be losing seniority every day you are not in the system and there is some value in that.

It is not my intent to defend or support Jet U or any other school like it. Just weigh where you are right now and what it will take to get where you want to be.

Finally, for those who tell you that you can get on with very few hours and not go to a school, I got on with fairly low hours, but a guy with an A&P and about 500 hours did not, nor did a CFI with over 600 hours. Another friend has actual Challenger time and is a CFII/MEI and still did not get hired (no, she is not a goon and hopefully she's been hired by now). When you get done with these schools, you will have up to 80 hours in a CRJ FTD or Sim, and that has a lot of value to the airlines. Getting hired off the street from these airlines is not as easy as it appears when you have competition from people who go to these schools or are coming from other airlines because they don't want to commute anymore.

That's what I would tell your friends.

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Old 09-18-2007, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BigWammerJammer View Post
Before anyone says "Run away", consider this: A guy with 194TT and about 5 ME got hired by Pinnacle out of Jet U (disclaimer - I went to Jet U and got hired by PSA).

Do you need to get your CFI? - No
Is it expensive? - Yes
Will you get a job? - So far, 100% yes
Will you be flying a CRJ in about 4 months instead of a 172? - Yes

The word I got is that Jet U is less tied to Pinnacle than it was just a few months ago, but that is rumor. A couple of us went to PSA and others are looking at Air Wisconsin. There is (was?) no requirement to interview with Pinnacle, but it was very easy since Pinnacle came out to Jet U to conduct interviews. If you want to go somewhere other than Pinnacle, Jet U will make an introduction and do what they can to get you an interview.

Jet U wasn't airline nirvana, and there were some very frustrating/maddening times for me but, in the end, I started in March and will be flying CRJs in November (I could be flying them now but took some time for family reasons).

The best suggestion I can make is this: What do you want to be doing in 6 months from now, and what are you willing to pay to do it? Yes, CFI'ing pays as much or more than 1st year FO'ing, but you'll be losing seniority every day you are not in the system and there is some value in that.

It is not my intent to defend or support Jet U or any other school like it. Just weigh where you are right now and what it will take to get where you want to be.

Finally, for those who tell you that you can get on with very few hours and not go to a school, I got on with fairly low hours, but a guy with an A&P and about 500 hours did not. When you get done with these schools, you will have up to 80 hours in a CRJ FTD or Sim, and that has a lot of value to the airlines. Getting hired off the street from these airlines is not as easy as it appears when you have competition from people who go to these schools or are coming from other airlines because they don't want to commute anymore.

Good luck to you, whatever you choose to do.
Answer this question for me. If you don't get hired on at Pinnacle or where ever. because you fail the sim ride or written test during the interview, or any other reason. Now what? No CFI, you can't go fly 135 VFR. Now you have to spend even more money to get the CFI.

Why waste all that money to "maybe" get a job flying an RJ? If you have a CFI, at least if you don't get on with a regional you can still have a flying job, and you spent a lot less money.
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That has happened and (I finished in July so I cannot speak to each and every event) they have all been hired by someone.

It happened to me, though I didn't fail the interview. I'm an "older" guy and there was some suspicion - evidently - that the younger FO's thought I might not be very good at taking instructions from a 24 yr old, so I was not offered a job. I am now going to PSA and think I am better for it.

Bottom line - Jet U gets you a job or they give you your money back. Even if you don't get hired, how can all that experience really be a waste of time?
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BigWammerJammer View Post
Bottom line - Jet U gets you a job or they give you your money back.
I wonder if they put that in writing?

Seems like another RAA....
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:03 AM
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All that "Experience" isnt gonna prepare you for the real thing....its gonna prepare you for the simulator....where minus the emergencies...everything runs like clock work. when was the last time you were kept at 6000 ft best forward airspeed until the marker...then expected to drop your RJ onto a 5200 foot strip in the simulator? when was the last time u blew through a final approach course in the sim cuz of a *******ty vector...not cuz you werent prepared? I was a sim instructor at FSI before i went to an airline, and although these sims are pretty realistic...its still not the real airplane Dont get me wrong schools like that are good because they can teach crew concept. But for all these 200 hr pilots who have less than 100 multi....saying that you have "Experience" from doing one of these programs...it crap. For all the "Experience" that these guys are paying for...they are still dropping out of training.

I started this thread just to see what people knew about the program...to see if it was just another PFT place like gulfstream
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:13 AM
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Bottom line - Jet U gets you a job or they give you your money back.
Enjoy life at Freedom.
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