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Seatownflyer 09-22-2007 11:07 AM

SKW 2008 Projected hiring?
 
Anyone know how many pilots SKW is planning on hiring in 2008? Where would one find out such information? I can't imagine HR would enjoy fielding questions on the subject. Or would they care? I see the info posted on the profile page but how accurate is that?

TonyWilliams 09-22-2007 11:45 AM

Crystal ball says same amount as this year... about 600 - 700. Training department is already set up to handle that.

10 more Midwest birds in 2008 means about 100 new pilots. Also, both FO's and Capt's are still leaving at about 1 per day, so about 365 more seats to fill. Plus, reserves are still depleted, so throw in a few hundred to build that up.

My prediction is worth exactly what you paid for it.

Seatownflyer 09-22-2007 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by TonyWilliams (Post 235060)
Crystal ball says same amount as this year... about 600 - 700. Training department is already set up to handle that.

10 more Midwest birds in 2008 means about 100 new pilots. Also, both FO's and Capt's are still leaving at about 1 per day, so about 365 more seats to fill. Plus, reserves are still depleted, so throw in a few hundred to build that up.

My prediction is worth exactly what you paid for it.

Great! As a first year FO I'll take all the money saving deals I can get. Thanks for the info.

Koolaidman 09-22-2007 12:57 PM

Seatown, if you haven't learned that about our company yet, the open door policy is true. I have emailed people I probably shouldn't have and asked questions to the same. Email and ask. What is it going to hurt? This isn't Trans States where they will fire you for wanting to know about hiring. Not yet anyways, that comes after ALPA is on property!

Tony, I don't know where EVERYONE (not just you) is getting the 30 people a month leaving? I have been here exactly one year. When I started, I was 2330 something. Now, I am 2128 as of Saturday. That is 200 over one year. That is what I have seen. For some reason, everyone says we are losing 30 a month and to my knowledge it has been more around 20. When I got hired I figured I would be 2000 by now, and I am not.

I would be shocked with another 600-700. Are there that many pilots out there for that? Also, how much more RJ flying is left to be given out? I hope we get the Midwest stuff, but weren't they supposed to announce that this month?

Thanks!

Seatownflyer 09-22-2007 01:04 PM

Good to know! I thought it would be safe to ask here first. Appreciate the info.

Koolaidman 09-22-2007 01:08 PM

Yeah, you would be shocked at how nice people are. If you ever have payroll questions, Margo is awesome!

CRJDriver 09-22-2007 01:44 PM

I just talked to Camielle a few days ago, and she told me that SkyWest is still hiring like crazy well into 2008. I'm actually looking to make a jump from OH to OO.

JetJock16 09-22-2007 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by TonyWilliams (Post 235060)
Crystal ball says same amount as this year... about 600 - 700. Training department is already set up to handle that.

10 more Midwest birds in 2008 means about 100 new pilots. Also, both FO's and Capt's are still leaving at about 1 per day, so about 365 more seats to fill. Plus, reserves are still depleted, so throw in a few hundred to build that up.

My prediction is worth exactly what you paid for it.

Not at SKW's Pilot to aircraft ratio. In the past 3 years SKW has averaged a 7.6:1 ratio. That means only 76 "active" pilots for those 10 Midwest aircraft.

BTW, since coming to SKW over 18 months ago, I've only moved up 336 numbers. That's just over 18 pilots a month in attrition. If you add the FO's behind me, it might reach 22 per month but no more.

OlyRob 09-22-2007 02:35 PM

So everyone over at Skywest is still "sure" that they are getting 10 more planes to fly for Midwest? Obviously never dealt with the Midwest Air Group before :p

JetJock16 09-22-2007 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by OlyRob (Post 235128)
So everyone over at Skywest is still "sure" that they are getting 10 more planes to fly for Midwest? Obviously never dealt with the Midwest Air Group before :p

As sure as you were when Midwest Connect flying, in addition to that of Skyways, went out for bid and SKW won it. Don't forget that our numbers have consistently beaten those of Skyways and we've also exceeded Midwest expectations. This doesn’t guarantee anything, but one thing's for sure; you’re still in denial. :D

ExperimentalAB 09-22-2007 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 235167)
As sure as you were when Midwest Connect fling, in addition to that of Skyways, went out for bid and SKW won it. Don't forget that our numbers have consistently beaten those of Skyways and we've also exceeded Midwest expectations. This doesn’t guarantee anything, but one thing's for sure; you’re still in denial. :D

And those numbers are fantastic considering we are still working out the quirks in the old-desert birds, and that they're being flown by green F.O.'s and Captains!

Good job Lads :D

SharkAir 09-22-2007 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 235218)
And those numbers are fantastic considering we are still working out the quirks in the old-desert birds, and that they're being flown by green F.O.'s and Captains!

Good job Lads :D

Well, when one of those green FOs is me, you'd naturally have to expect greatness.

OlyRob 09-22-2007 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 235167)
As sure as you were when Midwest Connect flying, in addition to that of Skyways, went out for bid and SKW won it. Don't forget that our numbers have consistently beaten those of Skyways and we've also exceeded Midwest expectations. This doesn’t guarantee anything, but one thing's for sure; you’re still in denial. :D

I guess, but I wasn't even on this board when the RFP went out. I'm not sure how comparing syx and skyw is even feasible, considering A) Skyway's financial performance took a nose dive because it was through Skyway that all the new rampers where trained, all the new ramps were purchased, all the new CSR's hired and trained, etc etc. B)Its not as if the two companies are flying head to head on routes...so comparing a company that has a bunch of EAS routes, etc. to another that was given new routes and existing mainline routes doesn't make too much sense...then again thats just the denial speaking!

JetJock16 09-23-2007 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by OlyRob (Post 235254)
I guess, but I wasn't even on this board when the RFP went out. I'm not sure how comparing syx and skyw is even feasible, considering A) Skyway's financial performance took a nose dive because it was through Skyway that all the new rampers where trained, all the new ramps were purchased, all the new CSR's hired and trained, etc etc. B)Its not as if the two companies are flying head to head on routes...so comparing a company that has a bunch of EAS routes, etc. to another that was given new routes and existing mainline routes doesn't make too much sense...then again thats just the denial speaking!

Ever heard of:

• On Time
• Completion
• Customer Satisfaction Polling

This has nothing to do with head to head competition. BTW, SYX should have better performance seeing that fly into airports with less traffic (Flow) both on the ground and in the air.

Denial and aviation go hand in hand. LOL! :D

OlyRob 09-23-2007 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 235367)
Ever heard of:

• On Time
• Completion
• Customer Satisfaction Polling

This has nothing to do with head to head competition. BTW, SYX should have better performance seeing that fly into airports with less traffic (Flow) both on the ground and in the air.

Denial and aviation go hand in hand. LOL! :D

I have, I'd love to see the numbers. You were the same person that posted a bunch of previously announced routes that are covered by the 15th plane coming into service in October as an explanation of why you thought Skywest was getting the additional 10 CRJs.

I'm just very skeptical of the confidence that a lot of people have when Midwest has announced all their planned new service through the end of the year. Coupled with new ownership coming in, I'm just trying to get an idea of where you all are coming from other than "they have an option, so its inevitable"

jsky26 09-23-2007 11:23 AM

Anyone forsee Skywest reducing their hiring mins in '08?

JetJock16 09-23-2007 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by OlyRob (Post 235380)
I have, I'd love to see the numbers. You were the same person that posted a bunch of previously announced routes that are covered by the 15th plane coming into service in October as an explanation of why you thought Skywest was getting the additional 10 CRJs.

I'm just very skeptical of the confidence that a lot of people have when Midwest has announced all their planned new service through the end of the year. Coupled with new ownership coming in, I'm just trying to get an idea of where you all are coming from other than "they have an option, so its inevitable"

The 15th a/c is reserve, nothing more.

Breaks released, cleared to push.

OlyRob 09-23-2007 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 235510)
The 15th a/c is reserve, nothing more.

Breaks released, cleared to push.

Like I said...I'd love to see performance numbers.

duvie 09-23-2007 06:56 PM

On behalf of SKW pilots who don't think we are the best regional airline in the world, I will add that there is crew room built in MCI with SKW stickers on various objects in the room. Not sure what thats worth, anything can change, but it looks somebody with more pull than a bunch of bored line pilots thinks we're getting that flying.

AirWillie 09-24-2007 10:11 AM

Do all 121 experience pilots get the CRJ?

rickair7777 09-24-2007 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by AirWillie (Post 236072)
Do all 121 experience pilots get the CRJ?

Pretty much. But if you wanted the bro, you could ask for it...they might give it to you. Start as an FO, learn the airplane, then upgrade in 6-8 months.

DitchDog 09-24-2007 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by AirWillie (Post 236072)
Do all 121 experience pilots get the CRJ?

No. My buddy had 121 exp, chief pilot exp, and a ton of hours. He got offered the Bro. It has a lot to do with what next class is scheduled.

doug_or 09-24-2007 07:49 PM

..............

reelbigchair 09-25-2007 08:37 AM

To answer the original question, according to "Headlines" the company newspaper, they are projecting a total of 600+ by the end of this year (450 of those are hired already) and then they want 600+ again the next year. This came in an article written by Camielle our recruiter. She also discussed how they do not plan to lower minimums any lower then they already are.

rickair7777 09-25-2007 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by DitchDog (Post 236349)
No. My buddy had 121 exp, chief pilot exp, and a ton of hours. He got offered the Bro. It has a lot to do with what next class is scheduled.

??? What the heck is he doing flying the bro at SKW if he has CP experience??? He should be at SOUTHwest (or UPS).

DitchDog 09-25-2007 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 236745)
??? What the heck is he doing flying the bro at SKW if he has CP experience??? He should be at SOUTHwest (or UPS).

He's not flying for Skywest....He he only interviewed here....He went to Allegiant.

mmaviator 09-26-2007 09:17 AM

does skywest hire into the rj without 121 time?

ghilis101 09-26-2007 09:46 AM

yes 5 or 6 people in my class of 30 including me had zero 121 time. two were cfi's who were supposed to get the emb but got changed at the last minute.

Giggity 09-26-2007 01:16 PM

Yay!! More RJs more RJs!!!!! Yaaaayyy!!!


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