New Colgan Mins?
 

Web Site shows 600/100. Previously it was 500/80 and I believe APC showed 500/50.

And? Still too low...

Can't disagree there. I don't know why they would raise them though since all I hear is how bad they need pilots.

way way way to low!!!!!!!!!!!

face it, if the pax knew the MINIMAL experience that was upfront, i think most wouldnt even fly.....ha.ha.

i think 1000 hours should be the minimum across the board!!

just my $.02....of course, then again, i think GO! Jets is the best airline out there!! (oh boy, handgrenade inbound)......

cheers,

Jeff

P.s....you KNOW i was just joking about the GO comment.....

I disagree here. 121 training is very rigorous and strict. When you come out, you know how to fly the airplane and know what to do when things go south. What's the difference between a 600 hour pilot and a 1000 hour pilot? 400 hours as a CFI in a 172? Or better yet...a seminole?
Once you study your butt off and receive a commercial license, Instrument rating, multi engine, and type rating, you've proven to many people that you know how to fly. Yes you pick up techniques and experience after a while, but it doesn't mean you're an unsafe pilot until then. There are 1500 hour pilots that have problems with a king air, and there are 600 hour pilots that could handle a CRJ single pilot into JFK. It all depends on the person

No I don't agree with you. They can TELL that we dont have 20 years of experience behind us. What I mean is many of us are in our early/mid 20s and obviously look our age. Yes, some pax dont like it and dont have a prob telling it to our face "arent you too young" but honestly that doesnt stop them from buying another ticket next time around. In the end, it's just too convenient and cheap to choose driving over flying.

as far as the "new mins"... I dont know why they bother, I doubt that they're really sticking with it (or most other regionals for that matter.) I know a few ARe strict about their published mins, but all five I've interviewed with earlier this year weren't.

i think that 400 extra hours gives you 400 hours more air experience under your butt. 400 more hours to see things go bad, see things go right, etc, etc.

you are right, with regards to sitting in the right seat as a CFI, the extra 400 hours means virtually nothing. i wasnt taking that into account. my point is that when i said 1000 hours, i meant 1000 as PIC...PERIOD.... the CFI time would just be gravy...

Jeff

Then what are you taking into account? So some how...you are supposed to get up to 1000 hours without being a CFI? Or what are you trying to say?

Not trying to be a jerk, but you are contradicting yourself it seems...unless I am reading your post wrong?

Didn't I pass the same 121 check ride at 1000 hrs (not all PIC) that someone with 3000 hours would of gotten?

Passing a checkride is one thing, being good at your job and contributing to the crew is another.

Anyone know if colgan has hired any street captains yet?

Yes, class of 6 started this past monday from what I hear about 20 street captains have been/will be hired.

So they get the same seniority number a new FO would right?

Yes, but it is still 20 less openings for current FOs

I got the interview w/ my 570 hours over someone w/ 2000 hours... time doesn't mean anything if it's sitting scratching your butt in the right seat. What are they hiring with in Europe for 737s and A320s and what were the mins back in the 60s here????????? On another note... my friend has 2300TT, 1100ME, 125 Turbine PIC (Beech 99)... any chance on the street CA hiring?

The memo said the 29th class finishes off the eligible FOs for upgrade, so it seems as if they are just filling in the holes until more FOs are ready

Yeah the question is what is the definition of eligible FOs, I flew with an FO last week more then ready to upgrade with about the time requirements yet he's heard nothing.

With the a/p defered right?:D

i'm ready, got the atp mins take me!

Does anyone remember back when they earned their private pilot certificate, the examiner saying something along the lines of: "Think of this as your license to learn..."

When I got my CFI cert (after the private, after the instrument rating, after the commercial cert, after the ME add on) after a few hundred hours of CFI flights, I though to myself, wow, I didn't realize how much more I had, and still have, to learn!

Passing a 121 ride is certainly a big achievement. However, it doesn't mean you don't have room to keep on learning, and learn a lot lot lot more. Most of the learning a pilot has to do is from real world experience. The classroom stuff is there just to give you a framework through which to understand the experiences you have out in the real world. I know that I still have plenty of room to learn more.

So, in actuality, the 121 ride you have at 1000 hours is NOT the same as the 121 ride you have at 3000 hours, or 5000 or etc. The boxes on the paper might be the same, but you are a different, more experienced pilot at each one.

since when did sitting right seat as a CFI become scratching your butt? I can recall in the last 400 hours multiple times that a student has done or came close to doing something to kill me, I can recall flying in weather, I can recall countless IMC flights, I can recall countless high wind and crosswind days. I certainly wouldnt call 400 hours of being a CFI scratching my butt.

It is amazing how much people with ~500 hours try to defend their hours. Some of you will fight to the death on how another 500 hours makes no difference. Get 500 more hours and say you gained nothing in that time.

i dunno about that cause my housemate just got a letter for his upgrade interview and he's only got like 1850 total and like 750 in type