AE Hiring 400TT/85ME/$20,000 get a job!!!!
 

Yep that's right, for 400TT, 85ME, and $20,000.00 you can buy your first officer job at American Eagle, click the link below, but I have attached it for easier reading. I called the school and "Step 4 is $19,600.00". Guess American Eagle can't hire F/O's so they are going to sell the positions....Seems like they are the new "Pay For Training" airline.......and with a 7-9 year upgrade, this is a great deal ;)

http://www.raaflightschools.com/airl...ican_eagle.asp


American Eagle Airlines

Airline Overview
American Eagle is the regional airline partner for American Airlines, both of which are owned by AMR. It is currently the largest regional airline carrier in the World with over 1,700 flights per day. They fly to over 140 cities and operate more than 300 aircraft. The fleet includes four types of modern jets which include the Embraer 135, Embraer 140, Embraer 145, and the Bombardier CRJ700 and two types of jet powered turboprop aircraft, the SAAB 340B and the Super ATR. In 2006, American Eagle hired 200 pilots and is anticipating to hire 400 to 600 more pilots in 2007/2008. .

Where Do They Fly?

American Eagle Airlines currently operates in both North America and the Caribbean including Canada, the United States, the Bahamas, and Mexico.

American Eagle Airlines and Regional Airline Academy's Partnership

To become a pilot with American Eagle Airlines, you must meet certain qualifications. These pilot qualifications are at least partially based on the average airline industry knowledge base. American Eagle knows our flight school students are well trained and prepared to start their aviation career. That is why our partnership with American Eagle Airlines allows our flight school graduates to become a pilot with them with 400 total hours and 850 hours of multi engine experience.

Step 1 – Apply for American Eagle Airlines Employment through Regional Airline Academy
You can apply for this program if you have:

Commercial Pilot License with Instrument and Multi-Engine ratings
400 hours total flight time and 85 hours multi-engine flight time
Flight time minimums must be attained prior to entering Phase II training with American Eagle Airlines. You may still apply for an HR interview if you have not yet completed all of the required ratings or flight time. Ask an RAA counselor for details.

Step 2 – Interview Prep Course - $600.00
The Interview Prep Course is designed to help you determine that you are ready to apply to the airline, and prepare you to pass the airline interview. There is a nominal charge of $600.00 to complete this course, but it is the only fee you must pay unless you are accepted for employment by American Eagle Airlines. If accepted, you may proceed to step 4.

Step 3 – Interview with American Eagle Airlines
You will be interviewed for a full time job with American Eagle Airlines. If accepted for employment by American Eagle Airlines, you will be offered a job contingent on completion of training as described below.

Step 4 – American Eagle Direct Track and
New Hire Training


Phase I – American Eagle Airlines Direct Track Course (Call for tuition) (IT'S $20,000.00)
This program combines RAA’s successful Airline Transition Course, a generic program designed to prepare a student for the training and operations of today’s regional jet operations, with the American Eagle Airlines specific operations, procedures, ERJ aircraft systems, and crew concepts. Completion of this program qualifies the candidate with the required hours of flight and multi-engine for immediate hiring by American Eagle Airlines without requiring additional flight time to meet hiring minimums. Students will be conditionally hired by the airline prior to completing the course.

Planned for 100+hours of ground training and a total of 76 hours crew training /38 hours Pilot Flying training in transport jet FTDs and ERJ simulator.

Week 1 and 2: ATP weather / ATP performance / FAA Regulations / Instrument and Chart Review / Severe Weather / Airline Operations / Crew Resource Management / Safety of flight operations, equipment & systems / Transport Category aircraft systems / FTD Instrument Evaluation


Week 3: Airline Specific ERJ Aircraft Systems / Airlines specific ERJ checklists and procedures / Airline specific ERJ equipment / PF, PNF Duties and Responsibilities / ERJ Aircraft Limitations


Week 4 and 5: ATP Written Exam / Airline specific ERJ Aircraft Systems continued / ERJ System abnormal operations / ERJ QRH and Crew Concepts in abnormal situations / FTD Training – Normal & Abnormal Operations


Week 6: FTD Training – Review, LOFT, Proficiency Check / End of Course Written Exam / Interview & Resume Prep and Final Practice Interview


Week 7: Simulator Differences Training / Level D Simulator – Normal & Abnormal Procedures and Airline Specified Additional FTD Training

Phase II – American Eagle Airlines Basic Indoc and New Hire Training
Following successful completion of Phase I, you will proceed to the American Eagle Training Center in Dallas, TX to begin your training with American Eagle Airlines and date of hired (DOH) is assigned.

The sad thing is that with 400TT and 85ME you can just walk onto a half dozen other regionals and get hired without having to pay RAA. If anyone out there is seriously considering this, then pay me half the cash and I will get you hired at:

Air Wisconsin
Mesa**
CommutAir
Colgan
ASA
TSA
Piedmont
PSA

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/resou...070412222.html

Holy S@#$!!!!!!!

what good does the $20,000 jet transition course do for you if you get stuck on a saab or the atr

It sounds basically like the same thing JetU is doing with PCL. I think PCL even has lower time requirements for the JetU guys. Just glad I'm not a line Capt having to deal with what airline management and flight academies cook up.

The sad thing is you probably wouldn't even make back that 20K your first year when you consider the interest for the loan you'd have to take out.

I think you can still get through PACE for about 10k... Of course 20k is better than +100k at Comair Academy, Pan Am or ERAU.

Until AE endorses, or recommends this program on their own site (http://www.airlineapps.com/Intro/Eagle/default.asp) I wouldn't get to excited. Just another marketing sceme. Nothing is for sure.

A lot of these small regionals will not even talk to you with 1000 hours unless you blew your money on some joke Microsoft flight simulator before hand.

"That is why our partnership with American Eagle Airlines allows our flight school graduates to become a pilot with them with 400 total hours and 850 hours of multi engine experience."

wow thats alot of multi time

This is a "valid AE Approved program" according to your recruiter who I met with at a FIT Melbourne, FL, Career event, that's how I found out about it! Also note on the AE Careers Pilot Page, next to the 800 TTL is an "*" which = "Flight time requirments are commensurate with experience", this legally lets them say your ERJ Sim experience is so outstanding that we can lower your TTL requirements..... http://www.americaneaglecareers.com/Jobs/Pilots.html

That was on Oct 3, 2007. I'll pm u the named source if you would like, but yes it is true......ref the "850 ME Hours" that's a typo on RAA'S website, and is suppose to be 85.

I just thought AE would step up to the plate, settle Letter 3, and make an offer acceptable and incentives for new hires to come fly for them, till they get their 7-9 year upgrade.

As far as doing this program and then getting the Saab or Atr, the recruiter stated if you do this you are guarnateed the jet, but only at the bases where they have openings, and right now (Oct 3) they are in need at ORD and JFK.

If anyone is going to the Embry Riddle Career Fair on Nov 7 & 8, Eagle will be there, feel free to ask for yourselves, and post what reply you get. I would imagine they are doing this to entice "lower timers" to come over, so they can feel proud they didn't "lower their standards" by lowering the TTL time, and the guys/gals are coming in already trained, so they should pass training with no problem, and AE isn't doing the Mesa thing of blowing so much money on trainees.......Now with that in mind, if they don't get a "happy ending to Letter 3", I forsee AE being the next Mesa/TSA, pilot training ground........just my .02

so what happens to the turbo prop bases? how does eagle convince people to go there and fly waiting for the 7-9 years till they can upgrade and 10+ to hold a line as a captain?

Any reason it advertises AE and has a Comair RJ on it?

What a joke.

"Are you tired of having airlines pay for your initial training? Well fret no more! RAA has you covered, where you get to take your American Eagle training and checkrides and pay for them yourself! But wait, for a limited time only, not only will we give you these fantastic things, but we'll also allow you to get trained on the same material a second time at American Eagle, because the first one was just "practice training", and didn't actually count for anything! Act now and we'll cut the cost from a 30 year fixed mortgage to only 25 years! That's almost a week of free training! Call 1-888-BENDOVER to secure your deal now!*"





*Must be 18 or older and have a pulse to enroll in this program.

That's funny I didn't notice that, I bet the AE People wouldn't be too happy about that, although it doesn't have the "name" of the airline, so maybe it's just a pic for those SJS kids to get an erection off of :D

You think mesa will try to petition ATP mins and create a PFT program for captains? :p

I heard that 'well qualified' applicants are supposed to call 1-800-BigRigs to sort out equipment issues.

Thats nothin. At FSA the mins for AE are 330TT and 30ME after their course. TSA/ASA no minimums.

good for them. now everyone can live the dream. i think everyone should be happy, that means more people underneath you on the seniority list

"And for the low low introductory price of $22,500 you too can have the chance of sitting right seat at one of the best regionals in the nation...TSA"

Wonder how many of these people will have regrets when it comes time to start paying off the $22,500 in addition to the 50K they racked up during their training...all while making 25K at one of these regionals.

i would say none of these people will have regrets. remember almost every regional slashed their TT requirements because nobody was coming for the lousy pay. And for the most part that strategy has been hugely successful, because they can keep labor costs low (sunk training costs are a different story but thats less tangible). The people who were well qualified chose other routes like corporate flying, and all these people who are looking for a quick way in are enjoying this newfound ability to get hired. so will they be happy to pay back 25 G's to be an RJ FO? You bet your sweet a$$ they will

Amazing how times change.

No doubt. When I got hired at Pinnacle back in 2004 I made $18,600 yr 1 ($20.73/Hr), did NOT get paid at all until the completion of your checkride (start of IOE) which was considered our date of Hire and had to provide your own lodging during training.

AE Hiring 400TT/85ME/$20,000 get a job!!!!
 

A 2007 thread? Well, as long as we're talking about yesteryear; my first airline gig was $12 and change/hr. I think perdiem was nonexistent. And that was getting hired with around 2,000 hours. No pay until checkride, but at least they paid for the double-occupancy hotel during training. My current airline I almost had 3,000 when hired, and it felt like rags to riches when my pay went to $19/hr plus perdiem and fully paid during training in my own hotel room.

Then they hired people with just over 500 hours.

Now they're throwing money, benefits and travel privileges at them.

Took almost 20 years, but what a difference.

Truly food stamp territory back in the day. Not anymore.

50k is still food stamps.

Really ? Some people are able to raise a family on 50k and be perfectly happy

Yeah and I'm one of them, that doesn't mean that a family of 4 generating 50k a year doesn't qualify for stamps.

What is up with all these necro threads????

Dunno. I made it on $40 thousand for a decade and didn't need food stamps. Of course, I didn't have a new car, a Bose headset, iPad/phone, designer much anything, didn't blow $ on expensive bar tabs, brought my own crew cooler... Just depends on what one expects as a lifestyle. All that and I still pass traveled to Europe at least a half-dozen times for some great vacations.

No food stamps, but there were months it would've taken a load off to have them.

Is that the same as 1250TT?

So, $20,000/850 = $23.52 Something tells me that you're not buying the multi time from these guys :)

38 hours in Sims plus that invaluable AA interview prep course, that sounds like a deal for 20 large! :D

Doh! Disregard. 2007? WTH?

You made it on 40k for a decade because you most likely have a level headed, common sense approach to living.

It doesn't change the fact that the pay was disgraceful then and it's still disgraceful. Management is having to apply these high dollar "bonus" bandaids because nobody wants to be a pilot for ***t wages anymore.

Management may or may not realize that their pilots are a vanishing asset. I would lean toward no as they are still trying to low ball their way out of this crisis with "bonuses" that they think they can retract down the road. I think it's really, really close to blowing up in their face. RAH is already cancelling a percentage of their daily flights. I don't know how many other carriers are, but it won't be long before you start hearing talk about cancellations everywhere spreading like wildfire.

Envoy management is exceptionally stupid as they actually have a bit of overage in terms of assets (pilots) now that they spent the last 3 years trying to run off.

I guess I'm missing the part where you mention how many people you fed off your 40k.

Not directed at you, but one of my biggest pet peeves is that other people's financial situations are no one else's business!!!

I also agree that 40k is a terrible haul - it should be far more, and we all know it.

2 1/2.

Other half was out of work for a while, and the little one was happy with just a boob for a long time.