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Old 12-10-2005, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Irish Pilot
Dont know about ridde...but UND I remember paying around $65/hr for a brand new warrior (double stacked Garmin 430s etc.) and something like $35/hr for an instructor. That was a great price considering your equipment and how much training your instructor had had. Many places out here in the SW you will pay $65-95 just for an old 172 for an hour.
The G430's are getting replaced with glass (Avidyne), and maybe G1000.
Man i went home this summer and rented a 172 (1976), for $105 an hour. They also offer S20, but that was around $180, and you had to get special training. I guess one of the good things about UND, is that the prices are very reasonable.

I also think the price of the CFI went up to $39 this year.
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Old 12-10-2005, 03:15 PM
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You talk a lot of fancy game for a guy flying right seat in a 90 model king air.
since you have all the answers- what will you say in an interview when they ask you who was calling the shots when you have all the PIC king time logged?

Its not cool when someone unexperienced asked a question in the right forum area and they get p@$%ed on for it. keep it up and you'll see how far you get. its a small world and everyone knows everyone.

so for now put the gear down junior.
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You are right. I'll try to do better.

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Old 12-10-2005, 07:13 PM
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People like SkyHigh crack me up. It shows me how much you really don't know. Since, I just have a degree in aviation equal to a bass fishing degree and can't do anything with it if I can't be a pilot. This forum is to post your experience and knowledge and all you do is attack other peoples post and opinions. I do not care if you are some 20yr Captain....I could easily get a job outside of being a pilot with other companies with my aviation degree. I think half of us in here if not more would just like to do something in the aviation industry if we couldnt fly as a pilot. I know the NTSB, Boeing, Aviation Insurance companies, and the airline's corporate side hire if you have an aviation degree. I know they hire you even if you do not have an aviation degree but I am thinking if they consider this equal to a bass fishing or stock car driving degree they wouldn't be hiring us. Going to aviation univ. has its pros and cons just like everything else out there.
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Or you could do what I did. Don't go to college at all and end up at the major that most of you with a college degree are applying to!
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Or you could do what I did. Don't go to college at all and end up at the major that most of you with a college degree are applying to!
As long as you have a job with that airline for a looong time that would be ok or if everything hit the fan and you lost that job then hopefully you have another gifted talent. But the experience going through college is great though. That rocks though if you got rt in with a major.
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Old 12-11-2005, 08:26 PM
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Now im just going to chime in. Sure i dont have the experience as most of you (if not all) as i am still a senior in high school. However i will be attending ERAU in PR next year. i used to work at an FBO that intructs with 6 aircraft...all cessnas. The cheapest price we had was $95 (1972 C172L) an hr and $40 for instruction. Now i know (or am assuming) that UND's and ERAU's cannot be too much higher than that (if theyre even that high). Also we had a twin ( C310I )that was $240 an hr...and i certainly hope that UND or ERAU prices are lower for a twin.

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Old 12-11-2005, 09:14 PM
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Now im just going to chime in. Sure i dont have the experience as most of you (if not all) as i am still a senior in high school. However i will be attending ERAU in PR next year. i used to work at an FBO that intructs with 6 aircraft...all cessnas. The cheapest price we had was $95 (1972 C172L) an hr and $40 for instruction. Now i know (or am assuming) that UND's and ERAU's cannot be too much higher than that (if theyre even that high). Also we had a twin ( C310I )that was $240 an hr...and i certainly hope that UND or ERAU prices are lower for a twin.

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ERAU's flight costs, as far as instructor and airplane are not an issue to me. You will find some places cheaper than others, but for the most part, rental rates, and instuctor rates are identical, or at least, within a given range, anywhere you go. You will probably spend $20K+ for your ratings alone at ERAU, and a local FBO, although some local FBOs are a bit cheaper.

The issue to me with ERAU, is that is costs over $100K, or close to that in tuition alone.

After thinking about the whole situation, and listening to advice, I've come to this conclusion;

Certain career fields require a certain degree. Most people who desire to work in a specific career field, major in that field. This is no different for some pilots. Aviation, however, is not a field that requires a specific degree. All that matters is having a degree.

You can get your ratings from a local FBO, and major in something else from a local college, and spend a 1/3, or even a 1/4 of what you will spend at ERAU overall. Getting your ratings from a local FBO or ERAU; neither one is better. The ratings are the same in the eyes of the FAA, and the airlines, afterall, they are looking at total time, and experience, not where you got your ratings from. And, it is always good to have a backup.

As far as the benefit of being able to get on with a regional with 600TT as compared to 1000TT for someone who didn't go to ERAU, or UND. In my opinion, that 400+ extra time the non ERAu or UND grad has, before the airline job, makes him a more experiences, and better pilot. More than likely that extra time was gained instructing, and many here have said that instructing is some of the most valuable, and quality time the gained.

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Old 12-12-2005, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by flyinhigh6165
People like SkyHigh crack me up. It shows me how much you really don't know. Since, I just have a degree in aviation equal to a bass fishing degree and can't do anything with it if I can't be a pilot. This forum is to post your experience and knowledge and all you do is attack other peoples post and opinions. I do not care if you are some 20yr Captain....I could easily get a job outside of being a pilot with other companies with my aviation degree. I think half of us in here if not more would just like to do something in the aviation industry if we couldnt fly as a pilot. I know the NTSB, Boeing, Aviation Insurance companies, and the airline's corporate side hire if you have an aviation degree. I know they hire you even if you do not have an aviation degree but I am thinking if they consider this equal to a bass fishing or stock car driving degree they wouldn't be hiring us. Going to aviation univ. has its pros and cons just like everything else out there.

My point about the stock car degree is that aviation is a skill and not a discipline. It does not deserve the level of study that a BS degree is intended for. Universities are businesses just like anything else and they have learned that they can sell a worthless aviation degree to kids looking to avoid having to get a real education. You are just guessing about the NTSB, boeing and the like. I am sure you will get your chance to find out for yourself someday. Aviation degrees are about worthless.

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Old 12-12-2005, 04:01 AM
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Skyhigh...don't waste your time...these guys have bought the magazine ads and are going to shell out their hard earned money to get a job at the NTSB with their BS in Aviation / Aeronautical Science....


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