Thoughts on ASA....
 

what are some thoughts on ASA. i know that they will lower my mins if i take the JET course through my university (from what i see/heard). I havent heard much about ASA as everyone usually goes to Mesaba, AE, etc.

build up your time & come to skywest...i used to instruct at wmu and no one there ever considers oo for some strange reason...theyre a great company.

I just applied to ASA last Friday, hope to hear back from them this week. But I know they just got a new labor agreement that has really increased their popularity.
Does any one know where ASA conducts their pilot training?

The new "agreement" is just tentative, and a lot of captains I have been flying with recently here at ASA say they will vote it down......we'll see. As far as training, Flight Safety for basic indoc, HQ for systems, then back to Flight Safety for your sim training. Start to finish (icluding IOE) is about three mos.

Flight Safety in ATL

are they placing the new hires on the CRJ or on the ATR?

As a new hire chances are you will get the CRJ-200. They only have 12 ATRs. I start there a week from tomorrow, can't wait.

I dont graduate college until next may so I was hoping to get a head start so I can jump right into the airline. Dont know if they will call because I had it on my resume that I couldnt start until then.

They have started hiring more into the ATR. At one point they were doing about 5 per class

Are they 700 or 200 captains? Because if they are 700 captains thats understandable, they are getting i think only a 1 dollar raise. Most of the fo's and ca's i run into are going to vote for it.

To my understanding, ATR hiring is taking place every other class. The last class to start, everyone was put on the CRJ. So i'd assume the next class will have ATR positions.

THe last class to have ATR positions took 4 new hires. Therefore, if there is a trend the next class would put 4 on the ATR.

Yes, according to various people in the ATR department 4 new hires out of every other class until the end of the year will be going to the ATR. That is of course not set in stone, but it seems fairly likely to actually happen.

I agree this is my findings too. Maybe I hit the "koolaid" too much but I don't think its fair for the 700 pilots to be asking for more.. they are the highest paid in the industry already??

Just an observation.
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The Ta will pass i think. The majority of the population (200 drivers), are elated about it. And when it does pass it truly will be a top regional to work for. I went to WMU and i dont know why it wasnt talked about much. But i know a couple guys who graduated from there with me last year and now are FO's at ASA.

if its a top regional to work for then why isnt there a line out the door to get a job and why are minimums much lower than, say, skywest or republic??

In retrospect, NO ONE has a line out the door. I dont know why their mins are much lower, but that does not make them a bad regional. You can think what you want, I will be enjoying the soon to be passed TA.:cool:

ASA won't fire you for calling in fatigued, or for writing profanity on the wall of the crewroom:eek:

Who cares if they have been losing airplanes, losing flying, have terrible morale, even worse on-time performance and a 4-year upgrade.... YOU'LL HAVE THE PRICELESS OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE PROFANITY ALL OVER THE CREWROOM, WITHOUT LOSING YOUR JOB!
How about that for job satisfaction!

THIS is what you should consider when choosing your prospective employer... because after all, what is this career worth if you can't even write profane graffiti on walls anymore?!?!?


DISCLAIMER: If you DO end up getting caught writing profanity addressed to your chief pilot, and get called in by the aforementioned individual, simply print out a copy ehaekercfi's post and you'll be just fine!;)

Two and a half year upgrade, and dropping. And morale has rose quite a bit there bud.

Dude...are you serious? None of us get paid what we are worth.....We can spend almost 100K on our educations to make 19-24 dollars an hour....such low wages that we can qualify for food stamps.....and yet because ASA's CRJ 700 pilots want more money....u think its unfair???

Pilot groups as a whole need to bring back pay to what we deserve....you cant just settle....All you new hires at ASA are tickled pink cuz you get a 4 dollar raise...and yeah thats great....but the reason why ASA pilots want to vote it down is because your management isnt giving them the right amount of retro pay that all of these pilots who have been working there for 5 years without a contract deserve.

If you think its unfair to want more money to fly a bigger jet, then go over to GoJets....im sure they'd love to hire you

hahaha guess I hit a sore spot with that one!

100K on your education to become a pilot? Where did you go to school? You didn't have to go to a big university to get your certificates. The airlines could give a damn where you learned how to fly.

Complaining about the low wages? You knew what you were getting into before you signed up for the job.

im not thinking anything, im just trying to get some information on the airline. ive never heard anything bad about ASA at all. its just that instructors here dont talk about it all that much cuz they all wanna based in ORD so they go to AE, Skywest, or Republic.

Ok fine. ASA once the TA become stone will be just as good or better to work for than AE, Skywest, or Republic. Because:

1. As long as things stay steady, ASA is a sure way to Delta.

2. Pay will be on par or better than the other top regionals.

3. Scheduling is willing to work with you

4. Trip/Duty rigs....nuff said

5. Upgrade time is 2.5 years and droppin


BTW even though their mins are "low" the interview process is said by some to be the hardest. Flying the full motion Level-D CRJ 700 sim to commercial standards was one of the most challenging things Ive ever done. So alot of guys with that low time who think they are hot shots dont make it.

Carib makes some good points however, ASA may have had alot of guys hired at DAL but it is in no way a SURE WAY to DAL. I know a guy who recently interviewed with DAL and the ONLY three guys not hired that day were ASA CA's..... go figure. NOTHING is a sure thing in this business.

oh im sure it is. i have had the opportunity to fly the full motion g-550 sim a couple times and it was def. something to get used to. but im sure that, even though its not full motion, a 3-week course flying a level 5 CRJ sim as you know we have at WMU doesnt hurt either....

oh im sure it is. i have had the opportunity to fly the full motion g-550 sim a couple times and it was def. something to get used to. but im sure that, even though its not full motion, a 3-week course flying a level 5 CRJ sim as you know we have at WMU doesnt hurt either....

You are right, I stand corrected.

Trust me when i say ASA is on the way up. Now that Delta has taken over the ground handling, the on-time performance will be significantly better. Hope all the info helps.

Hell I wanted to interview with them..... 2700 hours.. all ME turbine... no glass... no interview.....

the TA def puts ASA in a good position from the pilots side for sure, good for you guys.

Hopefully RAH will push the FO pay a bit to compete, but then the contract just became amendable 16 days ago.... probably a year off or more.

They are -200 captains. They say scheduling still has way too much control of their lives, the 401k match is no good, and the retro pay is not enough.