Asa.......
 

Hey.....anybody here thats gotten into ASA with the reduced mins by going to the ATPS CRJ Course???

If so lets hear it.....thinking about doing the course when im done with my multi time building next week..............

Thanks

Why pay that much money for things they'll teach you in class while they pay you?

Getting paid. What a novel concept...

I think he may be looking for information not sarcasm, that's just a guess though........:confused:

Nothing sarcastic about my statement.

just info......
 

yea i am just looking for info..............im at 330 ttl but will be doing about 75 multi next week so I spoke to ASA this morning and they told me that theyll give me the interview with the 400 total and 50 multi if i did the ATP thing if not its 500/50

Do it... Rent that 70 hours and get the FTD training, just get your seniority number ASAP.

flybywire is right, seniority is everything, get in ASAP, esp. w the new TA, they willl start to get more resumes esp. if it gets voted on, ASA is a good place to be right now, very little reserve, 2 yr upgrade, and deccent workrules once the contract is in place, I have been here a few months and have had a good experience thus far,awesome people, great training........this is one of the places to be once things start to turn around...what s a couple thousand now when you will make it up down the road.... good luck...!! Oh yea and there was a kid here a few weeks back that got hired (who was not an intern and did the ATP thing) he had 375TT ...he starts systems next week

"What's a couple of thousands?" For something you should be getting paid to do???...I don't knoww...

How long would it take to get 150 - 200 hours more... ASA it's not going anywhere
just what I think

Why are folks saying 2 year upgrade at ASA?

You obviously have no understanding of seniority and what it means in terms of money, furlough, quality of life, etc.

FYI the most junior CA here is 3 years 4 mos. Reserve will run 2-4 months right now.

Here's my question, how much would it cost you to rent a C-152 (where you live), and fly it for 100 hours to get up from the 400 you have to the 500 you need. At my local FBO (KBOW) it's $60.00/hr wet.....so that is $6,000.00........how much is the FTD Class, I believe the same........so assuming you rented the C-152 and flew actual 7 hours per day that would be 14-15 days of straight flying....

But that now puts you at a total time of 500, vs taking the FTD class. If you take the FTD Class yeah you get the interview, but what if you have a bad day, blow the sim, or a question and don't get the job......you got CRJ Training, but still only 400 hours and need the extra 100 (or possibly more) to apply elsewhere, and might get a job flying an ATR or EMB airplane, so the CRJ Training is not helping in this situation. Remember ASA does have ATR's assigned to new hires....

I would just rent the C-152 log the extra hours, you'll always have them......It will take you about 5-7 days longer, but you're now a "new hire applicant at 500/75".

This is just my .02, take it for what it's worth!!!! Best of Luck to whatever you choose to do!!!!

I'll agree with that. I have been at ASA for almost 1 year. A new F/O friend is spending his 2nd full month on reserve, only because she didn't fully understand how to bid, otherwise, she could have held a relief line.

With the new TA, and hopefully a contract, attrition should slow some, and reserve time will begin to grow longer as new F/Os are hired and trained.

Good Luck!

I probaby don't... just like I don't understand wasting around 7 grands to get THAT interview at THAT airline when you could INVEST it in something that will matter more to others, Like a CFI ticket for ex.

If you have your CFI, how long will it take you to built 200 hrs? 3 month?

Unless it gives you seniority to hold captain right out of there, you're not going to recoup the costs.

For what it's worth, two guys in my class took that. Both of them double failed on the oral and were canned. Funny thing is that one is still on ATP's "these guys went here and are now airline pilots" page. Guess getting hired is just as good as staying hired right? Good luck trying to get another job with a 121 bust on your record.

It takes a long time to earn $7,000 instructing my friend. $7,000 spent today CAN get you THAT job that (30 years later) will AFFORD you that 2nd house in Tahoe, or the ability to retire independently wealthy. Don't just live for now......plan for your future! :rolleyes:

for someone that is not a pilot getting paid yet, I'll add my 2 cents but it I guess it doesn't matter. The way I look at it, flight hours matter, type of flight hours, knowlage, etc. The flying expirance you'll get with lets say an extra 100 hours IMO will be worth more than the CRJ class. IF you fail at ASA, which believe it or not, not EVERYONE gets hired, then what? 7 grand and a crj class later, that 100 hrs. you COULD have got seems pretty nice right then. I HIGHLY doubt a couple months of senority means a lot. lets say it takes you 3 extra months to go the building time route. Is i worth the risk for 3 months senority over being hireable to many other places than just one? I would/will take my chances and pass up the senority for more flight time. Plus, I find and have been told I am a very good pilot, and the knowlage and skill of my CFI's impresses me. You'll learn a lot that way. 1-2 extra years (we're looking to the future here) over what I hope will be 40 years (from PPL to retirement) is not much, and the expirance I hope to gain I don't think there is a replacement for it. Haveing a CAPT. tell you what to do is differnt than someone teaching you and you teaching others. But I guess if you think you're ready, go for it. Again, Not in that situation quite yet, so take what I say witha grain of salt.

I was not talking about earning $7,000 as a CFI. I was talking about not wasting it instead!!!

And remember, the CRJ course won't give you the job, it will give you an interview just like more flight time will.

Get the flight-time.

just curious, will 400/150 get me an interview without the jet course?

400/150, send it in, dont take the course, i first sent my resume in to them w 430 TT and 100 ME, they told me to get some more TT, then i reapplied w 470 and 120 ME and got the interview and was hired, dont waste ur money on the CRJ course if you dont have to, 3 of us interviewed 2 of us were hired, and the one that didnt had teh CRJ course under his belt, neither myself nor the other guy that got hired w me had a any glass time, so it doesnt matter.

Thanks for the insight, I will give it a shot. How long ago did you get hired?

July 31st, I started class though on Aug. 27th

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The reason why I wanna do the CRJ course is cause I dont have my CFI and im doing the 100 hrs of multi at Ari Ben. Since then I wont log much more time after and im gonna need a job............ASA is the best chance with those times but the CRJ course no only qualifies me for that airline......

You are going to pay for a CRJ course on top of paying for 100 hours of multi time?

That's a ton of money to throw down...some might say unnecessarily. But hey - I bought some Multi at scari-ben and did the CFI deal at ATP...

BTW, say hey to Karen for me there - tell her I haven't forgotten about our Coffee date ;-)

You don't waste any time, huh!? :p

so how long and whats training like..........pay during training?
QOL now and current reserve times and are guys getting on the 200 and 700 or is it separate?

Don't forget they fly ATR's, would be kinda funny to be CRJ School grad and get the ATR in training.........I wouldn't want to play the lottery that day!!!!

From what I've heard:

Training is typical - upwards of two months (a bit longer for the -700)
Pay - NO IDEA!
Reserve - only a month or two on the -200, quite a bit longer for the -700...(yes, your are trained on either the -200 or the -700)

Yeah I did the CRJ course and fly the ATR now. The transition to the 700 will be cake.

What Banshee365 did not mention is that there is a guy with 1yr 7mo seniority @ ASA who just got on the preliminary for Captain... But, the final should go to a guy who is 2 year and 6 months. Minimums will drop again soon and two year upgrades will start popping soon. Look in the spring-summer ramp up, its going to get crazy.

It'll only going to get better... or worse. However you look at it.

not bad.......im looking at sending in my stuff early Dec. hopefully by then ill have the times and the crj thing done.......how good is the crj training at ATPs what do they give you to keep and to study...........and then the ASA interview...questions?sim profile?

ASA sim profiles?questions?
 

anybody willing to contribute?

gonna go see ASA at the job fair in miami on saturday..........

Are they going to be there on Saturday? The site I looked at didn't mention them being there, so I wasn't considering going too much. It looked like most of the airiines going to be there were going to be looking for way more hours (and turbine time) that I don't have yet.

go to the job fair in Miami if you can, if you ahve the mins for ASA, then just apply and they should get back to you the same day. Job fairs are good, i went to the one here in ATL back in May to see what each airline had to offer, got about 7 interviews out of the deal, went to two, and got hired at ASA which was one of my top choices, and here i am , if the TA goes through things are going to get pretty good around here, but regardless go to the fair for the experience and they may interview you on teh spot if you have the flight times. good luck!

sent my stuff in yesterday with 400/150...think I have a chance? Also, any better response rate with emailing it directly or Airline Apps...maybe both or would that just **** them off...lol.

Thanks

I could apply at any regional in US with my times but family health reasons limit me a bit in wanting to be near enough to home to visit them frequently. ASA would be a good fit out of ATL...a couple of hours drive and I'd be home. I kind of held out with a good deal to instruct a bit longer to pay some bills to get the magic 1000TT and make me eligible for Republic as well.

Well I work as a flight instructor at WMU, got 50% off on the cost of our Jet Course, which is a CL-65 sim no less, and I just got hired at ASA with 402/52 hours. So if you can find some way to get a deal on the jet course I would say go for it, because ASA loves (i.e. PREFERS) you to have jet simulator/glass cockpit time.