ASA and SKYW to merge pilot seniority lists!
11-01-2007, 06:57 AM
#101
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: Spouse of OO Captain
Posts: 13
Everyone knows someone at SkyWest, call them and encourage them to vote. If they have questions encourage them to contact someone at the SkyWest ALPA OC.
Thanks for your help and support.
RJ Spouse
Thanks for your help and support.
RJ Spouse
11-01-2007, 07:57 AM
#102
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: SkyWest Capt.
Posts: 2,963
SKW won't merge the two labor groups based upon a few facts.
1. So he can whipsaw the two groups against each other.
2. If the two labor groups merge then it would become VERY Difficult for SKW to sale ASA down the road. An Airline with no pilots isn’t and airline. You could call them Jerry’s “Ace in the Hole.”
3. By merging the two pilot groups, JA will being showing little regard for his current SKW pilots; seeing that ASA will fight for DOH which will totally shaft SKW pilots. We won’t be placed at “THE BOTTOM,” but we’ll lose seniority.
4. Currently the overwhelming majority of SKW pilots LOVE drinking Jerry’s Kool-Aid (“Jerry’s Kids”). If he allowed the two pilot groups to merge he would end up with an overwhelming majority shift the other way to “Anti-Mgmnt.” Effective killing Jerry's other “Ace in the Hole.”
1. So he can whipsaw the two groups against each other.
2. If the two labor groups merge then it would become VERY Difficult for SKW to sale ASA down the road. An Airline with no pilots isn’t and airline. You could call them Jerry’s “Ace in the Hole.”
3. By merging the two pilot groups, JA will being showing little regard for his current SKW pilots; seeing that ASA will fight for DOH which will totally shaft SKW pilots. We won’t be placed at “THE BOTTOM,” but we’ll lose seniority.
4. Currently the overwhelming majority of SKW pilots LOVE drinking Jerry’s Kool-Aid (“Jerry’s Kids”). If he allowed the two pilot groups to merge he would end up with an overwhelming majority shift the other way to “Anti-Mgmnt.” Effective killing Jerry's other “Ace in the Hole.”
11-01-2007, 09:53 AM
#103
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: CRJ-700
Posts: 104
This all makes me laugh. The ALPA vote will fail and ALPA WILL NOT be in at Skywest. I told you so now and when the vote is over I will just reply back with "Told you so!" So rant all you want but in the end all you will hear is a bunch of whining from people at airlines other than Skywest but also a "Told you so!" from me. Have a great day
11-01-2007, 10:20 AM
#104
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Position: Airbus
Posts: 634
Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
Nope. Ya'll need to get out of our business.
However keep in mind that SKYW is much more like XJT, a pro-pilot company and voting in ALPA won't necessarily ruin that. ALPA is a success for a place like XJT, a disaster for a place like Mesa. It all depends on how management treats their people, and how the people react. No matter how ****ed of Mesa ALPA will get, JO still has the RLA and the devil on his side.
ALPA doesn't bring problems, crappy management does. Put your koolaid down and take a drink of that.
11-01-2007, 10:51 AM
#105
Banned
Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 1,192
Originally Posted by RJpilotspouse
Everyone knows someone at SkyWest, call them and encourage them to vote. If they have questions encourage them to contact someone at the SkyWest ALPA OC.
Thanks for your help and support.
RJ Spouse
Thanks for your help and support.
RJ Spouse
If you want to get some truth talk to the thousand or so MESA, TSA, ASA, and PNCL pilots who made the switch to NON-UNION Skywest. 90% of the OC has never been at another carrier.
11-01-2007, 10:53 AM
#106
Banned
Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 1,192
Originally Posted by yellowfever
Part of the lawsuit was to stop illegal company funding of SAPA. I think your comparison is weak.
11-01-2007, 01:09 PM
#107
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,803
Originally Posted by Slaphappy
No it was a tactic alpa used to try and force the pilots of skywest to think alpa would be their only option.
Does that tick anybody else off?? Or is it just me!
11-01-2007, 03:46 PM
#108
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 30 West
Posts: 417
Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
So what is the deal today? ALPA is going after our SAPA because it is management paid?
Does that tick anybody else off?? Or is it just me!
Does that tick anybody else off?? Or is it just me!
11-01-2007, 03:51 PM
#109
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: Self employed
Posts: 3,048
Originally Posted by yellowfever :
Part of the lawsuit was to stop illegal company funding of SAPA. I think your comparison is weak..
Part of the lawsuit was to stop illegal company funding of SAPA. I think your comparison is weak..
Originally Posted by Slaphappy
No it was a tactic alpa used to try and force the pilots of skywest to think alpa would be their only option.
I'll bet you a GAZILLION dollars that they won't give a hoot about SAPA, or how it's funded, after the vote fails.
11-01-2007, 03:57 PM
#110
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: Self employed
Posts: 3,048
Originally Posted by ladder1423
The ALPA vote will fail and ALPA WILL NOT be in at Skywest. I told you so now and when the vote is over I will just reply back with "Told you so!"
Come on, you really don't want to sound like a sore winner, right? Nor do you want the ALPA boys to rub it in your face if they win.
Everybody has a choice, to be made freely. As far as I know, neither the company nor ALPA is coming into your home and forcing you to vote/not vote.
But, I agree with you. It'll fail, and perhaps by a bigger margin that I orginally thought.
