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HercDriver130 11-09-2007 07:06 AM

If you think it cant happen, watch this....
 
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...ear.misses.cnn

tyrael37 11-09-2007 07:34 AM

that is definitely some scary stuff. I wonder how far away the RJ saw the Skywest plane and at what speed he rotated, whether or not he was at rotation speed.

metski919 11-09-2007 07:46 AM

The captain (she) rotated 15 knots early to avoid hitting skywest.

TheProfessionalPilot 11-09-2007 08:01 AM

Similar happened to me in a Seneca in MYNN when my brakes failed landing 9, hold short 14 (i believe it was 14 anyhow). I told the controller as soon as I realized what had happened that I was unable to hold short.... the right main brakes completely failed while the left side still had some in it. So I hit hard right rudder (right before the intersecting runway) and then jammed left rudder and brakes and "spun out" to a complete stop!!! LOL scaaaaaaaaaaary stuff! Turns out a rubber seal in the brake caliper failed from age and as a result all the brake fluid poored out. Yikes

JetJock16 11-09-2007 08:21 AM

Neither a/c was at fault.

I used to fly the EMB-120’s out of SFO and every time I was cleared position and hold on RWY 1L or 1R my eyes started concentrating on the arrival traffic for 28L and 28R; vise versa for landing on 28’s and watching the traffic on the 1’s. Standard ops for SFO are for you to be rolling through the 1's when traffic is very short final for the 28's. This is normal but at times can cause the hair on back of your neck to stand at attention. Twice my CA and I denied a TO clearance because we didn't think we could get through the 28's in time for our margin of safety. If your not used to SFO then you don't understand to look for the arrival traffic on the 28's as I'm sure the Republic crew failed to do, none the less it wasn't their fault.

I also was a first hand witness for the near collision in LAX between another one of our EMB-120's and a Mesa RJ back in 06. My CA and I where clear position and hold on 25R as an EMB-120 was in the middle of their TO roll. We watch as the Mesa CR2 pulled onto 25R and the EMB quickly rotated early missing Mesa by less than 50’. I flew with the EMB CA, who was the CA on the LAX near miss, few months later and he was still EXTREMELY PARANOID! He said that after that short flight the FO and himself sat in the EMB shaking from the near miss. He said that it took everything they had just to complete the flight. Understandable seeing they just saw their lives flash before their eyes.

All I can say is I'm glad it wasn't a larger a/c. Good job Republic.

TheProfessionalPilot 11-09-2007 08:38 AM

2nd Generation Airline Pilot....................BTW, No Offense and None Taken


LoL i love that

belliott 11-09-2007 11:04 AM

I finally found the video.... makes a point. Maybe a crew's rest and their alertness levels should be taken a bit more seriously by management.

HercDriver130 11-09-2007 11:08 AM

I just clicked on it and it worked fine......

HercDriver130 11-09-2007 07:14 PM

Can you say controller error.....


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