Intersted to invest stocks in Virgin America and Skybus
 

hi guys,

I'm also interested to buy some airline stocks. Two companies I have been looking into is Skybus and Virgin America. Both have a significant airbus orders for the future.

I agree with some guys here, that fuel prices are going to be a draw back, but I belive that airlines will just increase the flight rate a cople of dollars and that will solve the problem, and people are willing to pay few dollars extra.

Any comments would be grate guys,

Good luck

good luck KDUA ;-)

Seriously though, rule#1

DON'T BUY AIRLINE STOCK! ANY AIRLINE STOCK

It's a bad investment with poor returns.
If you work in this industry you just increased your exposure to any turndown, that's the last thing any of us need!

Many other companies that do much better to buy...

For long term investment advice I highly recommend investing in companies that you know well and believe in (call it insider information if you wish)

Historical advice:

I bought TWA at $2something how could it go lower eh?
They had new planes and had worked out most of their issues.
I figured I'll buy a thousand shares and it goes up a buck and I'm out...

then came American...

Cheers
George

P.S. This is not a slam on expressjet, they seem to have a first-class operation and I wish them well...

Is any branded flying done out of ABQ? All secondhand information, but I've heard that loads have been pretty light outta there. Echoing the others, though, I wish the XJetters success.

Im done worrying, there is ABSOLUTELY nothing I can do about, go to work, fly from A to B and contribute my time to the UNION, :). Whatever happens happens...........

Finally... we've had an ephiphany!

XJT touched $2.30 a share today. Who would have ever thought....?

I think I will wait for an announcement from the company before buying into the stock. No telling how low it can go. No support anywhere.

I think they will have to close down branded to stop the bleeding, and then concentrate on being the best 50 seat regional out there. JMHO.

Its market cap is nearly 3 times that of its value, its margins suck badly, poor quarterly revenue growth, negative cash flow that has been consistently getting worse, and over 10% of outstanding shares are shorted. No dividends and its down over 68% over the subsequent 52 weeks.

The stock is below the industry average (and its competitors) on damn near everything:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/co?s=XJT

The 50/200 day MA is perfect example of a stock that sucks:

http://ichart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=...&p=m50,m200&a=

Whoever buys this stock deserves to get burned on it.

The problem with other CPA's is that if the agreement exceeds 10 aircraft we have to give those rates to CAL if they are lower. Now I don't know what CAL gets, and I don't know what our management thinks would be competitive but they obviously thought that we could make more money by doing branded and having 205 airplanes fly for the current CAL rates than being in another CPA with 69 airplanes and flying 205 airplanes for CAL at the same rate as the new CPA. 10 airplanes with Delta are on a CPA for rates lower than what CAL gets. I make this assumption because the other Delta airplanes are on a "pro-rate/codeshare" agreement where we don't get a fee for departure but get a majority % of the operating revenue or loss.

I would like to think that the people that made this choice know more than you or I, but I don't know if it was the right choice either. I think we need to give it time. Besides we're just pilots anyway. I have an finance degree and I still don't pretend to know whats going on but for some reason some people that sling gear of a living seem to know everything.

ALSO - Southwest can not just "decide" to contract RJ feed. Their pilots have pretty iron clad scope clause - it's been posted (feel free to do a search) and I don't think it's something we'll see.

The company was put in a tough spot. Our CPA with CAL was writen by CAL not XJT so that when they IPO'd us it would work out for them. Now we have some tough language and red tape in there that (I assume) most other RJ operators don't have to deal with and we were handed 69 airplanes. You can't compare our situation to anyone else because the fact that our CPA with CAL is booby-traped.

I also don't think we can call startup costs "bleeding". I mean really we needed to do alot of stuff. Starting an airline when everything you use is owned by Continental isn't cheep or easy. I think you're jumping to conclusions just a little too fast here. Lets wait untill the XJT stuff has been operating for 2 years before we start throwing ideas like this around. The company has the cash to float it for at least 3 more years.

So your saying you can't find a better investment than airline stock? Boy are you in trouble...

Now THERE'S someone who at least bothers to do a bit of proper research into a stock that doesn't involve a wild hair emotional action.