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newarkblows 11-22-2007 06:10 PM

we might be the ugly girl at the dance for awhile as far as finding flying that is within the limits of the CPA with Continental but its go big or go home. The whole idea of business and capitalism is to innovate and to take things to the next level. Well it might not be the next level but it might tide us over until something good happens overs here. If nay sayers were always right then no business would succeed. It is always a silly idea until it works.

NightIP 11-22-2007 06:14 PM

ToiletDuck, you're always piping up on XJT threads, making statements like you're in the know here. In fact, you're one of the bigger XJT bashers on this board. What's your beef?

Personally, I'm glad we gave CAL the middle finger instead of turning over all of our aircraft. From now on CAL has to realize that if they were to cut off more of our flying, we'd take our aircraft elsewhere. And considering what a bang-up job CHQ has done out of IAH with XJT's former flying, what are the chances more of our flying going elsewhere anytime soon?

Dash8Pilot 11-22-2007 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by duvie (Post 267477)
I can't remember the last regional that actually just shut the doors. Usually they get swallowed up by another company.

ACA/Independence Air. Lost flying from a major partner, and attempted a branded operation which failed spectacularly.

This is a big quarter for the XJet branded operation. Last quarter they got the load factors where they want them, now they need to show that they are gaining pricing power and will be able to raise yields to a profitable level.

SharkyBN584 11-22-2007 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by NightIP (Post 267529)
ToiletDuck, you're always piping up on XJT threads, making statements like you're in the know here. In fact, you're one of the bigger XJT bashers on this board. What's your beef?

Personally, I'm glad we gave CAL the middle finger instead of turning over all of our aircraft. From now on CAL has to realize that if they were to cut off more of our flying, we'd take our aircraft elsewhere. And considering what a bang-up job CHQ has done out of IAH with XJT's former flying, what are the chances more of our flying going elsewhere anytime soon?

It'd be nice if pilots at CHQ AND XJT would realize this:

"If you don't work there, you probably don't know what's really going on."

This includes, but is not limited to how well a branded operation is going and performance numbers you hear from gate agents. Of course, I never hear any CHQ bashing coming from XJTers. :rolleyes:

LOW FUEL 11-22-2007 09:46 PM

Branded pilot here, just flew the California Express. SAN-FAT-SAN-MRY-SAN for 4 days never had a load below 46 pax. Also I have been doing this trip for most of NOV and the numbers are consistent. One more point I flew SMF-SBA on sat this route has only been open for 5-days f-i-v-e days and a FULL BOAT.:Just a litte peak inside the branded life. To top things off how many other regionals had thier management provide turkey dinners to all the crews and ground personals with pie and all?:p

CL65driver 11-22-2007 10:20 PM

CA has been 45+ for me too, Low Fuel. Did a bunch of turns out of SAN a few weeks back, oversold three times, full boat almost every other time. I hope they close everything east of the Mississippi and concentrate on the West Coast. You going to the Party on the 15th?

JoeyMeatballs 11-23-2007 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 267588)
It'd be nice if pilots at CHQ AND XJT would realize this:

"If you don't work there, you probably don't know what's really going on."

This includes, but is not limited to how well a branded operation is going and performance numbers you hear from gate agents. Of course, I never hear any CHQ bashing coming from XJTers. :rolleyes:

good point, I will also say that its human nature, and the bashing will start in on Colgan as soon as they bring the propeller driven airplanes into EWR.:p

DMEarc 11-23-2007 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 267136)
Personally I think any airline could be a crap shoot.. you just never know. Had I told guys I know who went to DAL in 1990 that they would furlough thousands and go thru a bankruptcy they would have locked me up. I think XJT, RAH and SKW ( incl ASA ) seem to be trying set the bar in various areas of this business. Before anyone flames.... yes there are other equally good JET carriers.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

SkyWest doesn't belong on the same line as those carriers. They just like us at Colgan have NO SAY in our future so we cannot raise the bar.

Boy dude, wake up.

Superpilot92 11-23-2007 04:45 AM

Hold on i am going to check my crystal ball, Be back in a minute!!!

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...rystalball.jpg

SharkyBN584 11-23-2007 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 267653)
Hold on i am going to check my crystal ball, Be back in a minute!!!

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...rystalball.jpg

If Harry Potter was a Flight Attendant, this is what he would look like...it kinda worries me you have a picture like this.


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