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xkuzme1 11-26-2007 05:12 PM

ASA ...ATR or CRJ - Opinions Needed
 
Which one usually has the easiest training cycle for a new hire pilot. Pay, reserve time, and schedules are secondary to passing training.

nicholasblonde 11-26-2007 05:18 PM

All I know is that time-on-type on the ATR can get you some lucrative and interesting opps overseas.

ATR dudes get fat pay on contracts in India, Ireland, and Japan. There are even lots of opps for FOs after you get 500 FO hrs on type. You can literally get a work visa, free housing, and a fat tax-free check almost anywhere on Earth once you get experienced on that sucker.

Some might argue against this, but it always seems like tprop school is harder than jet school from everyone I know whose done both.

timnunes 11-26-2007 06:41 PM

I'm in training on the ATR at ASA right now and it's not bad at all. I don't start Sim's until next week so I don't know much about what it's like to fly it, but systems were easy enough to learn.

ehaeckercfi 11-26-2007 08:44 PM

The ATR has the best training department hands down.

Dash8Pilot 11-26-2007 09:02 PM

They wouldn't have hired you unless they thought you could pass either training program. Which program is easier shouldn't be anywhere near the top of your concerns.

SaltyDog 11-26-2007 10:20 PM

Fly the ATR! It is a great plane (only JS'ed on them) and the model will look great in your house someday when you are flying RJ's/Boeing's etc anyway. Heck, I could fly our companies new 747-400's but that will be around for the rest of my career, the DC-8 won't <g>.

HercDriver130 11-26-2007 10:57 PM

I totally enjoyed my 1000 hours on the ATR.

Ottopilot 11-27-2007 04:17 AM

I did 2000 hours in the ATR and 5000 in the ERJ. I enjoyed the ATR more. It's a fun airplane.

Airway 12-20-2007 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by xkuzme1 (Post 269250)
Which one usually has the easiest training cycle for a new hire pilot. Pay, reserve time, and schedules are secondary to passing training.

You seem pretty insecure about being able to pass airline groundschool. Maybe continue gaining more experience b4 going 121 maybe?

mregan 12-20-2007 10:53 AM

im on the CRJ, 4 guys went to the ATR from my class and they all love it from what they ve said, however, they do not fly a lot at all on reserve, now that they are phasing them out in the next eyar who knows if they will even make it off reserve to fly this thing......as for the the CRJ, I absolutley love it, next month on reserve I am holding weekends off and its my second month. I also have been picking up open time because they have not been flying us on reserve that much, so i tak ethe initiative of trying to get the trips myself, anyways the training was tough , but if you work hard , its def doable, I like it here a lot and the people are great....goo d luck in ur decision.

Trip7 12-20-2007 10:59 AM

Im going thru ATR training now. Alot of information but nothing very difficult. Just study a couple hrs each night and you'll be fine. I have heard reserve guys are averaging 4-8hrs a month:eek:

microcuts 12-20-2007 11:56 AM

The mindset of picking what plane is "easiest" in training is kind of frightening. Personally I would go for the ATR, Turboprops are fun to fly, and it might be the last time in your career that you can really handfly the aircraft.

godawgs 12-20-2007 12:50 PM

ATR has an excellent training program. I went through both programs at ASA and have to say the ATR had more hands on training and was a lot more fun. CRJ is just sitting at a computer clicking away where as the ATR is led by an instructor the whole time.

In regards to reserve, I would say someone put on the atr now would be on reserve till the atr went away (DEC). Serveral FO's are moving to the 700 so the reserve time should drop slightly from the current 7 months. On reserve, we usually fly somewhere around 15 hours, 25-30 starting in march or april...


Hope that helps...

ehaeckercfi 12-20-2007 01:31 PM

The -200 has the best schedule.

hoser073 12-20-2007 03:56 PM

What kind of Reserve Times on the 200 and 700?

ExperimentalAB 12-20-2007 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by microcuts (Post 284063)
The mindset of picking what plane is "easiest" in training is kind of frightening. Personally I would go for the ATR, Turboprops are fun to fly, and it might be the last time in your career that you can really handfly the aircraft.

You can ALWAYS choose to hand-fly an aircraft...My $.02 and also my 1,000th post!

ehaeckercfi 12-20-2007 06:43 PM

-200 is hardly any reserve. the -700 is your whole life.

mregan 12-20-2007 07:01 PM

200 is about 2 months, i have a reserve line next month with weekends off and its my 1st month bidding, should hopefully hold a line in March...


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