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KiloAlpha 12-10-2007 01:18 PM

I just had an Airways captain (30+ years, A330) in the jumpseat the other day and he was sharing some of his views about the past, present, and future of aviation. Despite my prior misconceptions of older pilots (mainly Airways pilots), the discussion was very informative and he did not come across as just some disgruntled, crusty, ol' captain.

Anyway, he was talking about how in his day pilots would take a stand. They loved their profession, but still realized it was just that.. a career, not a hobby. The big moral of his discussion was TAKE A STAND. Don't continue to screw yourself, your "elders", and future generations of pilots by sacrificing short term gains at the expense of long term losses. Don't be afraid to stirke... and for those who cross the picket line; (direct quote) "take they out back and beat them with a lead pipe".

So Mr. Almighty Colgan Driver.. TAKE A STAND and stop screwing everyone for you personal short term gain. Ya you got your 4 stripes, but at what cost? What's the next step for you? SkyBus seems to meet your career goals.. plus you'll get to dress up like a super cool park ranger.. WITH 4 STRIPES.. jackass

JoeyMeatballs 12-10-2007 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha (Post 276570)
I just had an Airways captain (30+ years, A330) in the jumpseat the other day and he was sharing some of his views about the past, present, and future of aviation. Despite my prior misconceptions of older pilots (mainly Airways pilots), the discussion was very informative and he did not come across as just some disgruntled, crusty, ol' captain.

Anyway, he was talking about how in his day pilots would take a stand. They loved their profession, but still realized it was just that.. a career, not a hobby. The big moral of his discussion was TAKE A STAND. Don't continue to screw yourself, your "elders", and future generations of pilots by sacrificing short term gains at the expense of long term losses. Don't be afraid to stirke... and for those who cross the picket line; (direct quote) "take they out back and beat them with a lead pipe".

So Mr. Almighty Colgan Driver.. TAKE A STAND and stop screwing everyone for you personal short term gain. Ya you got your 4 stripes, but at what cost? What's the next step for you? SkyBus seems to meet your career goals.. plus you'll get to dress up like a super cool park ranger.. WITH 4 STRIPES.. jackass


Beautifully written, my man KiloAlpha beers on me brah ;)

BeaglePilot 12-10-2007 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha (Post 276570)
I just had an Airways captain (30+ years, A330) in the jumpseat the other day and he was sharing some of his views about the past, present, and future of aviation. Despite my prior misconceptions of older pilots (mainly Airways pilots), the discussion was very informative and he did not come across as just some disgruntled, crusty, ol' captain.

Anyway, he was talking about how in his day pilots would take a stand. They loved their profession, but still realized it was just that.. a career, not a hobby. The big moral of his discussion was TAKE A STAND. Don't continue to screw yourself, your "elders", and future generations of pilots by sacrificing short term gains at the expense of long term losses. Don't be afraid to stirke... and for those who cross the picket line; (direct quote) "take they out back and beat them with a lead pipe".

So Mr. Almighty Colgan Driver.. TAKE A STAND and stop screwing everyone for you personal short term gain. Ya you got your 4 stripes, but at what cost? What's the next step for you? SkyBus seems to meet your career goals.. plus you'll get to dress up like a super cool park ranger.. WITH 4 STRIPES.. jackass

So according to you and N2rotation, I should have spent the next 7+ years at eagle wating for an upgrade, spend the last two years as an FO with no pay raise, all just so I can uphold the profession?

Sign the check that pays my salary and then we'll talk..... until then ****...

KiloAlpha 12-10-2007 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by BeaglePilot (Post 276577)
Sign the check that pays my salary and then we'll talk.

Have you considered GoJets? Seems like you'd fit into their culture nicely :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by BeaglePilot
all just so I can uphold the profession?

Thanks for proving my point

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How would it sound if a Republic pilot came out and started running his/her mouth ....
Saying how he wished they would get more 170's and more importantly 190's because that will mean a quicker upgrade and time in larger equipment.. Hoping that CAL bends on scope.. Hoping that JB has us fly their 190's.. Hoping that we buy F9 and operate Airbus'. All while saying that we don't need to be paid more because that would make us not competitive.. We don't need a union because we would not be competitive... We don't need to worry about our fellow pilots because then I will have to wait 2 whole years to upgrade.. BUT HEY, I GOTS ME 4 STRIPES NOW. YEE HAW.

BeaglePilot 12-10-2007 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha (Post 276581)
Have you considered GoJets? Seems like you'd fit into their culture nicely :rolleyes:


YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM SAYING
.. or at least go somewhere that isn't dragging down the bar.

So I guess I should have considered going to another carrier to be a FO again so I can be on reserve, make poverty wages, and be elligible for food stamps?

Wait I get it, I should sacrifice the food on my table and the roof over my head, just so I can uphold the profession.

Slice 12-10-2007 01:38 PM

Mod smack down in 3...2...1...

JoeyMeatballs 12-10-2007 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by BeaglePilot (Post 276586)
So I guess I should have considered going to another carrier to be a FO again so I can be on reserve, make poverty wages, and be elligible for food stamps?

Wait I get it, I should sacrifice the food on my table and the roof over my head, just so I can uphold the profession.

Well, I made over 30k my first year, as an F/O...........at that rate thats just over 50k my second year..............:rolleyes:

JoeyMeatballs 12-10-2007 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha (Post 276581)
Have you considered GoJets? Seems like you'd fit into their culture nicely :rolleyes:


Thanks for proving my point

----
How would it sound if a Republic pilot came out and started running his/her mouth ....
Saying how he wished they would get more 170's and more importantly 190's because that will mean a quicker upgrade and time in larger equipment.. Hoping that CAL bends on scope.. Hoping that JB has us fly their 190's.. Hoping that we buy F9 and operate Airbus'. All while saying that we don't need to be paid more because that would make us not competitive.. We don't need a union because we would not be competitive... We don't need to worry about our fellow pilots because then I will have to wait 2 whole years to upgrade.. BUT HEY, I GOTS ME 4 STRIPES NOW. YEE HAW.


another noteworthy post by Kilo............:D

N2rotation 12-10-2007 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by BeaglePilot (Post 276586)
So I guess I should have considered going to another carrier to be a FO again so I can be on reserve, make poverty wages, and be elligible for food stamps?

Wait I get it, I should sacrifice the food on my table and the roof over my head, just so I can uphold the profession.

...and your colgan FOs arent elligible (nice speling) for food stamps? My point exactly.

...and thanks for admitting that by supporting Colganblow you aren't upholding the profession, because you're not.

If you will notice, your tainted views on this thread are not supported by anyone else on here besides your fellow Colganoscopy bros.

Ok, back to my trip trading. Another nice feature of our CONTRACT.

BeaglePilot 12-11-2007 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by N2rotation (Post 276686)
...and your colgan FOs arent elligible (nice speling) for food stamps? My point exactly.

...and thanks for admitting that by supporting Colganblow you aren't upholding the profession, because you're not.

If you will notice, your tainted views on this thread are not supported by anyone else on here besides your fellow Colganoscopy bros.

Ok, back to my trip trading. Another nice feature of our CONTRACT.

Why don't you tell us how you really feel about colgan???


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