had to divert to ORD last night while enroute to MKE. On the taxi out we were sliding all over the ramp. The ice was built up pretty good. This could have been part of it maybe they did get on the brakes but there was no traction....

Dispatch told us it was a gear collapse and that it was "Bad"....they werent saying anything else except that everyone was ok...we actually found out from the Ops manager in CVG today....he told us as our release was printing.

We just arent sure if it was on take off or landing....in either case the airplane could be pretty badly damaged. Thank god everyone was ok. PVD had terrible weather tonight...the airport was about to close as this happened.

Philly had winds at 280/24G46 tonight..even though it was almost straight down the runway....it was a hairy approach.

Complacency is what gets you in trouble.

That is a pretty stupid post man, that could happen to anyone. Who knows...at any rate... ignorant post.

Actually, human factors studies have shown that new pilots and highly experienced pilots have almost the same level of risk. The answer being that the skilled individual relies to much on his skills and experience to "get them out of trouble" rather than "keep them out of trouble". This only show's that prudence is always a needed ingredient whatever the mission.

I think it might have been sarcasm....

We were about 45 mins from departing PIT for PVD when we heard, and our flight was cancelled. But we heard something about a Colgan Saab. Was that inaccurate or where there two instances? Glad they cancelled us. They were initially pushing us cause we had to take a deadhead crew up and bring a crew back to PIT.

no fun, was dealing with the northeast last week during the first round of snow, not this most recent set. And after being off flying for a month, and not having to deal with chicago/dulles for the past several months, it was a wakeup call to be headed back into BTV with poor braking action, and winds howling out of the west during a snow storm....

Actually, AWAC does hire 300 hr wonder pilots. Just like most regionals, we have CA's and FO's with limited experience in hardcore winter runway ops. I've been hearing interesting IOE FO stories from our Check Airman. Let's just say that jumping from CFIing to a CRJing is a big one.

BTW what airport is MKW?

Glad everyone is ok.

BA reports and taxiway and ramp reports go a long way toward unpuckering your butt.

[quote=GravellyPointer;281393]been hearing interesting IOE FO stories from our Check Airman. Let's just say that jumping from CFIing to a CRJing is a big one.

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The jump from cfi to airline fo is huge, even for a very experienced cfi. The jump from flyin a high performance twin prop to flying a jet is still really big. It took me a couple sim sessions to get used to all the speed and what not and I had a couple thousand hours and alot of it multi time in 310s and barons. I don't see how the 300 hour pilots make it. What is crazy is alot of these fos don't even have a cfi and the fastest thing they've flown is a seminole. Its not them being fos that worries me cause that is a pretty easy job, it's when they upgrade to captain without the foundation of command experience.