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Originally Posted by STR8NLVL
(Post 285876)
"Fly the Wing" is a really good reference book, too. It's intended audience is first-time jet pilots. Good reading with info on radar, high-altitude aerodynamics, etc. But, I'm sure you'll be fine.
Enjoy IOE, you'll feel like you're head is spinning at first, but then things slow down. |
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
(Post 285193)
From what I gather, it seems that by making sure we simply follow whats in the POM, we shouldn't encounter any problems. For example, we are forbidden to climb in VS...we always use SPD mode. And the book states that we also shall never fly slower than 290KIAS above FL180 especially while climbing.
I guess you'll never stall the plane... but what if ATC says 250kt climb ? (actually, the limit for ATC on departure is a speed assignment of 230kts or greater for turbojet a/c). Plus, SPD mode doesn't work muy bueno above 30-ish thousand feet (certainly far better in the 700 and 900 than 100/200, of course) I'm guessing Pitch mode would cause a heart attack with somebody? |
Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
(Post 285895)
I guess you'll never stall the plane... but what if ATC says 250kt climb ? (actually, the limit for ATC on departure is a speed assignment of 230kts or greater for turbojet a/c).
Plus, SPD mode doesn't work muy bueno above 30-ish thousand feet (certainly far better in the 700 and 900 than 100/200, of course) I'm guessing Pitch mode would cause a heart attack with somebody? I have my book right in front of me (900 only). 250KIAS to 10K then 290KIAS transition to M.74. Alt climb 320KIAS at 10K transition to M.77. CAUTION: When climbing at altitudes above 18K, the airspeed shall never be less than 290 KIAS or M.74. If at any time, the aircraft does not climb at a rate of at least 500FPM, stop climb and level off. I can't find the "no V/S" rule written anywhere but I know I remember being told. |
I felt like LOFT was too brief in my training. I was comfortable with the airplane and the emergencies, etc., but still just didn't know how a normal day went until after IOE. During my LOFT, the instructor put us through ice, a minor abnormal, 100+ knot winds at 10,000 feet, and thunderstorms (with 0 previous training on how/when to use radar, so we didn't even have it on, plus there was no "understood" weather in our LOFT scenario.) Now, all this sounds so tame, but to someone brand new to this kind of flying, it was a lot to digest all at once.
I think my experience could have been better by throwing in one more LOFT session, with nothing extra, no ice, no tx, no maintenance abnormalities, just move the ship from a to b, making the pas, the ops calls, etc. Then, do another one with some radar usage, some icing, etc.. Funny how the now everyday things like ice and weather seem so easy to manage, but as a rookie in training, it was pretty overwhelming. |
Originally Posted by plasticpi
(Post 285908)
I felt like LOFT was too brief in my training. I was comfortable with the airplane and the emergencies, etc., but still just didn't know how a normal day went until after IOE. During my LOFT, the instructor put us through ice, a minor abnormal, 100+ knot winds at 10,000 feet, and thunderstorms (with 0 previous training on how/when to use radar, so we didn't even have it on, plus there was no "understood" weather in our LOFT scenario.) Now, all this sounds so tame, but to someone brand new to this kind of flying, it was a lot to digest all at once.
I think my experience could have been better by throwing in one more LOFT session, with nothing extra, no ice, no tx, no maintenance abnormalities, just move the ship from a to b, making the pas, the ops calls, etc. Then, do another one with some radar usage, some icing, etc.. Funny how the now everyday things like ice and weather seem so easy to manage, but as a rookie in training, it was pretty overwhelming. |
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