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FOblondie 01-07-2008 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 294642)
No link. Its' on the Op/Ed page of section A or Section 1. I am sitting on the hotel all frickin' day in SDF and read the newspaper at the great "Continental Breakfast" of dried out muffins and Country Crock fake butter at the Best Western.

I don't know if USA Today publishes the whole thing online or not.

Anyway, it's no secret that Air Midwest is a big beneficiary of EAS dollars. And I am just wondering how those contracts are divied up.

It is what it is. Some places probably need/deserve EAS and for others it is pure pork barrel spending.

Ok, thanks. I'm at home and it's rainy and I'm too lazy to go out and actually get a paper. I'm also apparently too lazy to look it up online. :)

I'm jealous, I wish I was at a hotel. Even bad continental breakfasts are better than having to provide breakfast for yourself.

ExperimentalAB 01-07-2008 10:33 AM

Get a girlfriend...mine cooks me Eggs and other scrumptious breakfast delicacies LoL :D

FOblondie 01-07-2008 10:39 AM

Haha. I always tell people I need a wife because I want someone to cook for me and do my dishes. The joke is that I'm a girl, myself, and I'm not really interested in my own gender. I guess I just need a chef and a maid. :D

I wonder where I could find a pilot to marry me and support me? All pilots are rich, right?

nicholasblonde 01-07-2008 10:44 AM

I know of several EAS cities within 2 hours of major airports where local entrepreneurs start bus shuttle services which offer more departures/arrivals, at-your-door pickup, more reliability, half the cost, and roughly equal time enroute...since many many Air Midwest flights arrive at terminals outside the security/terminal area of Southwest and any non-USAir/Midwest Airlines majors...that one additional security and bag pickup (assuming you're not codesharing on USAirways or Midwest) at many airports kills any time savings over a direct bus schedule for many EAS cities. Thus many EAS cities have extremely low loads. It's almost unfair that the bus service has a better product and higher demand, yet the mismanaged company (Air Midwest) with little demand and in many cases little purpose gets a gov't subsidy.

I understand routes like Ft. Leonard Wood, MO and other cities with prison, military, and other important installations requiring air access--because they are usually more remote places that actually have a need for scheduled air service.

An interesting note for the future of EAS, though--it will probably become an even more obsolete option once we have 4-6 seat VLJs hopping around all over the country.

And as for the "commerce" argument...anyone significant investor, developer, or economic player who needs to get into a town to do business probably already has a charter or a privately owned aircraft.

TonyWilliams 01-07-2008 10:56 AM

I'm told that besides this little issue with the SEC, and the two well known lawsuits in Hawaii, Mesa also has a big debt bill coming due soon.

I see a total shutdown, aka PanAm, et al.

N2rotation 01-07-2008 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by TonyWilliams (Post 294663)
I see a total shutdown, aka PanAm, et al.

"I see dead people, I mean airlines."

http://www.mnight.com/images/movies/...colm&cole1.jpg

ExperimentalAB 01-07-2008 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by FOblondie (Post 294654)
Haha. I always tell people I need a wife because I want someone to cook for me and do my dishes. The joke is that I'm a girl, myself, and I'm not really interested in my own gender. I guess I just need a chef and a maid. :D

I wonder where I could find a pilot to marry me and support me? All pilots are rich, right?

::Insert foot in mouth now:: LoL :o

Joeshmoe 01-07-2008 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by ERJ Driver (Post 294636)
While we're on rumor avenue, I heard that the reason for the delay is "missing" money... millions of it. And it's not the HAL money either. My bet? It's PM's golden parachute for taking the fall.
:eek:

My guess is its the money funneled into all the offshore "holding companies" that JO and his cronies are all managing partners in.

FOblondie 01-07-2008 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 294687)
::Insert foot in mouth now:: LoL :o

No worries. It only would have been offensive if we were talking face to face and you thought I was a dude. :)

ExperimentalAB 01-08-2008 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by FOblondie (Post 294833)
No worries. It only would have been offensive if we were talking face to face and you thought I was a dude. :)

Hmm...you know, I'm a fantastic cook - Just thought you might be interested, since you're hungry and all LoL ;)


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