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hoser073 01-07-2008 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 294715)
If you live in Florida, why not apply to Spirit? I hear they hire student pilots, plus you'd get to fly an Airbus!

he he he...

hoser073 01-07-2008 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by atpwannabe (Post 294709)
I've decided to live wherever I'm based. Initially I may have to commute from PBI and that's ok. Me & my fiance have a condo in Ft. Pierce. FL.

I've identified ASA, Comair, & PNCL. That means either the suburbs of ATL or MEM. Not to thrilled about CVG; maybe Kentucky where the CVG/Northern Kentucky airport is located.


atp

Going to live in NC b/c my Guard unit is there... will only do one commute, plus I hope to get good flying with my unit so in the end I commute even less.

TonyWilliams 01-07-2008 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by cubflyer (Post 294614)
IMO, at age 27, you will probably be in the mid-range age in your class.


I'm guessing that ASA uses age for seniority? On the SkyWest side, it's determined by the last 4 of your social security number.

We just sent Brad Holt, and he took an entourage, over to ASA. I honestly hope that works for everybody, but I expect some pain before any (hopefully) gain.

Keep your chins up :D

tzadik 01-07-2008 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 294704)
See, now that's the kind of attitude that allows the whole airline situation to be dragged down.

i disagree.... thats the attitude that gets me a job and helps me deal with a less than ideal work situation. i didnt put us in this mess and any radical change is no where near the horizon; so i guess im just gonna play the game and try and get what i need out of it.

Bug Smasher 01-07-2008 01:54 PM

At 27, you might could hold the 700 with your initial bid. I'm 26 and just barely made the upper third of our class.. and nearly half the class went to the 700.

Come on over! It beats sitting on your butt..

JetJock16 01-07-2008 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by atpwannabe (Post 294576)
JP:

Isn't Delta reducing the amount of flying that Skywest does for them? I'm not sure what the total percentage of the reduction is and how it may affect hiring at Skywest.

With that reduction, an increase must occur somewhere else. The post that I'm referencing says that Delta is increasing its international service and reducing its domestic routes. Not quite sure how all of this will play out. My guess is that either that flying will go to Comair or Pinnacle. JMO.

atp

You're reading way too much into the SKW reduction in DAL flying. DAL is reduction SKW flying by a measly 600 hours. Just to put it in perspective, that’s only about 14 pilots worth of flying. (600 / 85 hrs per pilot = 7.06 x 2 pilots per a/c = 14.06 pilots) That's nothing seeing we're already understaffed. Also our contract with DAL requires us to maintain a % (% varies per base) of their regional departures through 2020.

For numbers sake (means I don’t now the exact #s) lets say its 85% (not saying it is), which is very likely in SLC & ATL (for ASA). If DAL has 1000 regional departures from SLC, SKW contract demands they fly 850 of those departures. Now if DAL wants to reduce those departures to 900 then SKW much still fly 85% of them and no less. Yes that means SKW has 85 fewer departures but some one else took a hit as well. Now if SKW has 87% of the SLC departures then DAL has 2% to work with.

If DAL drops SKW departures below that listed in the contract they stand to lose well over $100M which was all negotiated with the sale of ASA to SKYW Inc.

So as far as another regional getting SKW flying it can’t happen until 2020 and with SKW being one of their cheapest carriers with industry leading performance, I don’t see it happening. Comair and E9 won’t see a bit of SKW departures without SKW being justly compensated. As for as E9 taking our flying in ATL, not happening seeing we were temporary in ATL from the beginning and as we loose one departure in ATL we gain one out west (not necessarily SLC……..LAX).

Mark my words, EVERY DELTA CONNECT CARRIER WILL BE AFFECT BY A REDUCTION IN FLYING! It just happens to be that DAL started in SLC, which is SKW territory, but soon it'll be extended to CVG, ATL, etc. Remember that the reduction in flying has nothing to do with the carrier just the profitability of certain routes. It’s just a matter of time before they start cutting flying with other regionals.

BTW, yes DAL is increasing their international flying, but no one wants to fly on Comair to Europe! LOL! Remember that Comair and E9 are domestic operations not international. Yes they can fly to Mexico or Canada but that's not really what DAL's talking about, they're talking about long haul with heavy iron.

Also, SKW has many new destinations in Mexico.

tzadik 01-07-2008 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Bug Smasher (Post 294803)
At 27, you might could hold the 700 with your initial bid. I'm 26 and just barely made the upper third of our class.. and nearly half the class went to the 700.

Come on over! It beats sitting on your butt..

i'd love to come over... submitted app via email and fax. just need someone to get back to me and i'll race down to atlanta. watchin tv is getting old real quick.

i'd prefer the 700 if all was equal but it sounds like the 200 is the best bet at ASA so i guess i'll shoot for that. thanks.

JetJock16 01-07-2008 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by tzadik (Post 294824)
i'd prefer the 700 if all was equal but it sounds like the 200 is the best bet at ASA so i guess i'll shoot for that. thanks.

Careful, sounds like JSJ.

Go with the a/c that provides you with the best chance for a line then down the road move over. Besides if you’re holding a line on the CR2 you’ll make more money than sitting reserve on the CR7. It’s all about QOL (quality of life) not the a/c.

tzadik 01-07-2008 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 294828)
Careful, sounds like JSJ.

Go with the a/c that provides you with the best chance for a line then down the road move over. Besides if you’re holding a line on the CR2 you’ll make more money than sitting reserve on the CR7. It’s all about QOL (quality of life) not the a/c.

thanks for the advice... like i said... i'll shoot for the 200 if i get on with ASA. QOL and money to feed back to various financial institutions are top priorities :D

atpwannabe 01-07-2008 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 294715)
If you live in Florida, why not apply to Spirit? I hear they hire student pilots, plus you'd get to fly an Airbus!


I love you, too.!!!:p


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