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dolsanddays 01-12-2008 01:35 PM

Lynx Aviation News... :-(
 
Apparently, the guys who interviewed yesterday were told that the company has decided not to accept options until March 09...

They haven't told the pilots yet, but nice to know they are telling the applicants the truth.

TheGreatChecko 01-12-2008 01:45 PM

Sucks to hear it, I'm sure there will still be upgrades due to attrition, especially if the pay isn't fixed.

freezingflyboy 01-12-2008 01:52 PM

So whats this mean for their route structure and cities they serve? How many aircraft do they have flying now? They sure were quick to cancel the XJT flying. Gotta wonder what their plan is if they defer deliveries for over a year AND cancel the contractor that was flying the routes for them.

wannabepilot 01-12-2008 01:57 PM

i wonder when that dude who always comes on here promoting Lynx jobs will come back and respond to this.

TheGreatChecko 01-12-2008 01:57 PM

They have nine aircraft on the propery, number 10 is on its way. The current fleet more than covers the current flying and probably could absorb some more.

I'd expect to see the current destinations be adjusted and some shorter leg destinations added (COS, ASE, EGE???).

Checko

HercDriver130 01-12-2008 02:52 PM

how many acft were they supposed to buy in total?

TheGreatChecko 01-12-2008 03:13 PM

10 firm orders 10 options

HercDriver130 01-12-2008 05:16 PM

so really all they did was NOT convert options to orders.... gee I guess thats why they call them options.

freezingflyboy 01-12-2008 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 298475)
so really all they did was NOT convert options to orders.... gee I guess thats why they call them options.

Yeah, thats what I'm realizing now. I guess I read the original post wrong.

TheGreatChecko 01-12-2008 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 298505)
Yeah, thats what I'm realizing now. I guess I read the original post wrong.

Who knows, with the way things work at Bombardier, they have decided to take the options, but by the time they start getting delivered it will be March 09, with a promise date of late '08.:D

iahflyr 01-13-2008 07:17 AM

No one would be upset if:

Skybus was not growing
Virgin America was not growing
Mesa was not growing
Gojet was not growing

So why would you be upset when Lynx is not growing?

I would rather see a quality regional get their flying. That is definately not Lynx.

dolsanddays 01-13-2008 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 298668)
No one would be upset if:

Skybus was not growing
Virgin America was not growing
Mesa was not growing
Gojet was not growing

So why would you be upset when Lynx is not growing?

I would rather see a quality regional get their flying. That is definately not Lynx.

I'm pretty sure you don't know the first thing about Lynx. How can you judge quality on something that has been flying for less than 2 months. While there has been some huge miscalculations in budgeting and planning, I truly believe that most of the Lynx management acts in the good faith towards its employees. They seem to be aware that the works rules and pay rates are unacceptable. They don't seem interested in watching a large number of their pilots (who were trained on entitlements from Bombardier) walk out the door. They know unhappy people will cost them big $$ in the long run. Well at least I hope they know.

TheGreatChecko 01-13-2008 12:19 PM

Just to note, everyone I've talked to hasn't heard a thing about this, so I'm going to save my jugement until I heard something official. Nunn was quoted in the paper saying they would decide in the next few months whether they want the options and I'd go with that.

dolsanddays 01-13-2008 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by TheGreatChecko (Post 298816)
Just to note, everyone I've talked to hasn't heard a thing about this, so I'm going to save my jugement until I heard something official. Nunn was quoted in the paper saying they would decide in the next few months whether they want the options and I'd go with that.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope they change their minds. Anyone else interview on Friday and hear a similar story. I heard there were a number of Big Sky pilots in the interview. Anyone? Anyone?

In additional news there will be some upgrades soon. How many? I don't know. Apparently Lynx is short on the captain list.

ImEbee 01-13-2008 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 298401)
So whats this mean for their route structure and cities they serve? How many aircraft do they have flying now? They sure were quick to cancel the XJT flying. Gotta wonder what their plan is if they defer deliveries for over a year AND cancel the contractor that was flying the routes for them.

XJT was only there to cover the flying Lynx was going to miss due to certification delays. Once they had their certificate there was no need for XJT.

freezingflyboy 01-13-2008 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by ImEbee (Post 298863)
XJT was only there to cover the flying Lynx was going to miss due to certification delays. Once they had their certificate there was no need for XJT.

Yes, I know. I misread the original post as Lynx was delaying aircraft deliveries not options.

paxhauler85 01-13-2008 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by TheGreatChecko (Post 298404)
They have nine aircraft on the propery, number 10 is on its way. The current fleet more than covers the current flying and probably could absorb some more.

I'd expect to see the current destinations be adjusted and some shorter leg destinations added (COS, ASE, EGE???).

Checko

COS, maybe.

ASE and EGE, I don't think so.

Not saying the Q can't perform but I don't believe it can hack ASE.

That and those markets are already saturated.

UAL is running A-319's into EGE 4 times a day, supplemented by Dash-8-200's.

ASE is non stop CR7's. Literally. There is one every hour, both ways.

dolsanddays 01-13-2008 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 298996)
COS, maybe.

ASE and EGE, I don't think so.

Not saying the Q can't perform but I don't believe it can hack ASE.

That and those markets are already saturated.

UAL is running A-319's into EGE 4 times a day, supplemented by Dash-8-200's.

ASE is non stop CR7's. Literally. There is one every hour, both ways.

Aspen has been begging for someone besides United to come in there. They are giving Lynx/Frontier subsidies for bringing in new service. United used to send the Dash-200 there and the 400 out performs that airplane by leaps and bounds.

CRJ1000 02-13-2008 07:48 AM

Rockies
 
When is shasta going to fly to KASE, KEGE, KGUC, etc.? Seems like they could do well in those markets. Any word?
:rolleyes:

IQuitEagle 02-13-2008 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 298668)
No one would be upset if:

Skybus was not growing
Virgin America was not growing
Mesa was not growing
Gojet was not growing

So why would you be upset when Lynx is not growing?

I would rather see a quality regional get their flying. That is definately not Lynx.

Gee, if you work at ASA or Eagle, then I'm pretty sure you'd think the same about RAH and TSA. Let's stop the "my regional is better than yours" bs. All regionals blow. I personally would rather see mainline get all the flying. More better jobs for everyone...

TheGreatChecko 02-13-2008 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by CRJ1000 (Post 319596)
When is shasta going to fly to KASE, KEGE, KGUC, etc.? Seems like they could do well in those markets. Any word?
:rolleyes:

Frontier has a press conference tomorrow announcing new destinations. I'm sure there will be a few new Lynx destinations in the mix.

ExperimentalAB 02-13-2008 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by dolsanddays (Post 299101)
Aspen has been begging for someone besides United to come in there. They are giving Lynx/Frontier subsidies for bringing in new service. United used to send the Dash-200 there and the 400 out performs that airplane by leaps and bounds.

Who else flies into ASE?? SkyWest operates the CR7 under Delta and United...and I'm too busy right now to search myself, so somebody else can do the bull-work ;)

CRJ1000 02-13-2008 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 319779)
Who else flies into ASE?? SkyWest operates the CR7 under Delta and United...

Yesterday I saw the Mesa Dash from PHX up there again. They always sit for a bit and then go back after a nice long break. The DEN Mesa guys go up there depending on the time of day also. The ramp is pretty small...so it will be interesting to see what happens. :cool:

TheGreatChecko 02-14-2008 10:03 AM

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080214/lath067.html?.v=101

The eight are:

ASE, DRO, COS, GJT, MSO, BZN, JAC, FAR

BoilerUP 02-14-2008 10:34 AM

I'd imagine the Q400 will be a MUCH better suited airplane to ASE than any CRJ-derived airframe.

southbound 02-15-2008 07:07 PM

Why do you say that??

CRJ1000 02-15-2008 07:41 PM

flights
 

Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 320360)
I'd imagine the Q400 will be a MUCH better suited airplane to ASE than any CRJ-derived airframe.

I think the Q-400 will be a great aircraft for ASE. I know the CRJ cannot circle to 33 yet and tail winds really hurt the landing or T/O numbers. UAL (SKW) has flights from LAX, SFO, DEN(and MESA), ORD and Delta (SKW) has flight from SLC and ATL and US AIR from PHX (MESA). I guess the operational perfrmance will also need to be looked at by how the PAX want to get to ASE, Direct or connect. It will be nice the see the 400 up there one of these days.

Beech1900bush 02-20-2008 01:03 PM

Upgrades . . . Lynx's hiring
 
Dolsanddays was right there is suppose to be 12 upgrades. That will mean 12 first officer positions need to be filled again, so if you want to fly at Lynx get those resumes into Claire! They are expanding service as the previous post mentions. Oh and if your are iahflyer don't get your resume in with Lynx's we wouldn't want to have to share the bottom-feeding with you. OK just joshing that was flame-bait!!! Take it easy iahflyer:D

flynwmn 02-27-2008 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by dolsanddays (Post 299101)
Aspen has been begging for someone besides United to come in there. They are giving Lynx/Frontier subsidies for bringing in new service. United used to send the Dash-200 there and the 400 out performs that airplane by leaps and bounds.

ASE with CR700's thats a down grade from when I was a ramper at ASE on the hour every hour from open to close of the airport we had BaE 146's plus the Mesaba ARJ's.

berts 02-29-2008 02:31 PM

12 upgrades and we'll still be short captains

Joeshmoe 02-29-2008 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by berts (Post 330659)
12 upgrades and we'll still be short captains

Atta boy Lamar

flyduke 03-03-2008 06:49 AM

I am interviewing at Lynx this week. Any updated information on the interview process or hints are appreciated.

flyboy2136 03-03-2008 12:30 PM

How much time did you have when applying? How long did it take to hear about your interview from the time you applied? I applied about a week ago, and am anxious to hear from them. Thanks

AShortDash 03-03-2008 07:18 PM

Lynx will upgrade 12 FO's to CA. That will still leave them at least a handful of CA's short. The upgrades were to cover attrition NOT growth. Keep in mind they have only been certified for 3 months. The company is currently short of pilots and will likely continue to be in the near term. They have not actually increased their routes, they have announced a shift in the cities they are flying to. 10 aircraft can only serve so many destinations. Republic's 170's are being brought back from routes that didn't pan out financially and will be deployed onto some of the longer and better performing routes Lynx is currently operating. Pilot pay is well below industry standard for 70 seat aircraft, FO pay is below standard down to 30 seats. The Q400 is a fast, heavy, and complicated aircraft to learn and Lynx's training program is very young. Consider your options very carefully when you apply. There are many airlines looking for pilots.

berts 03-07-2008 12:27 PM

Suggestions for interview:

Listen very carefully to what they tell you and ask very specific questions. IF you want the job, you'll get it.
Send me a private email if you want a more frank answer.

CRJ1000 03-26-2008 02:27 PM

Frontier Airlines offers Colorado 'commuter pass'
 
DENVER (AP) - You've heard of ski passes. How about airline commuter passes?


As Frontier Airlines expands its service within Colorado, it is offering packs of one-way tickets to fly from Denver or Colorado Springs to its new destinations of Aspen, Colorado Springs, Durango and Grand Junction.

All travel must be done by June 30.

Travelers can buy six one-way passes for $594 or 10 one-way passes for $890. There are no blackout dates, and passes are transferable to another passenger before ticketing.

The passes work for flights operated by Frontier's Lynx Aviation subsidiary but not those operated by Great Lakes Aviation.

RightSeatDude 03-26-2008 03:35 PM

I was talking to a Horizon FO the other day. He said Frontier didn't like their proposal for the Q400 flying. Apparently the objection was the maintenance costs. Apparently Frontier is finding out the maintenance costs projected by Horizon were right on, and they're feeling the squeeze. Hope it all works out for the Lynx guys. Of course, I'm sure ExpressJet will be happy to help out if needed. The industry knows who to go to in troubling times.


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 298401)
So whats this mean for their route structure and cities they serve? How many aircraft do they have flying now? They sure were quick to cancel the XJT flying. Gotta wonder what their plan is if they defer deliveries for over a year AND cancel the contractor that was flying the routes for them.



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