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bustinmins 01-24-2008 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 306590)
bustinmins - semi-stabilized and beyond the FAF, I probably would have landed her ;)


"Your ILS starts to look more like a sword fight rather than a stabilized approach." (Implying unstable approach)

However - if stabilized, I agree with you. ;)

ExperimentalAB 01-24-2008 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by bustinmins (Post 306597)
"Your ILS starts to look more like a sword fight rather than a stabilized approach." (Implying unstable approach)

However - if stabilized, I agree with you. ;)

LoL...you're talkin' all crazy about sword fights and airplanes and bird-strikes eek!! Haha...:D

SkyCaptain 01-24-2008 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 306590)
bustinmins - semi-stabilized and beyond the FAF, I probably would have landed her ;)

LOL!! Well back in the day this was but a minor situation. (sarcasm)

bustinmins 01-24-2008 03:29 PM

I'm old enough to remember when sex was fun and motorcycles were dangerous...what can I say?

SkyCaptain 01-24-2008 03:42 PM

Not to belittle your scenario in our guffaws - what you actually said is true. I think it boils down to maturity in aircraft which may be different than actual hours in logbook

bustinmins 01-24-2008 06:59 PM

Maturity in aircraft has a lot to do with it whether you have 5000TT or 300TT....agreed. The fact remains and it is a constant: "All 300 hour pilots make 300 hour pilot mistakes." You can't get around that issue. You remove the automation and it is amazingly clear just how "at risk" you are. While I support the 300 hour pilots coming up through the ranks, I think many would benefit from a year or two of instructing before moving on up the food chain. The end product of pilot is a much better pilot. I'm not saying that the 300 hour fast trackers don't make good captains. However, the former CFI's make much better captains. Why? They've actually taken an airplane away from someone? They can see an accident chain beginning where as someone who hasn't seen it will be less "in tune" to its development. The CFI's have developed skills that will help them deal with the many personality types they are likely to encounter "on the line". They know how to lead and they know how to teach....both are extremely important skills for a captain to have.

TXTECHKA 01-24-2008 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by bustinmins (Post 306770)
Maturity in aircraft has a lot to do with it whether you have 5000TT or 300TT....agreed. The fact remains and it is a constant: "All 300 hour pilots make 300 hour pilot mistakes." You can't get around that issue. You remove the automation and it is amazingly clear just how "at risk" you are. While I support the 300 hour pilots coming up through the ranks, I think many would benefit from a year or two of instructing before moving on up the food chain. The end product of pilot is a much better pilot. I'm not saying that the 300 hour fast trackers don't make good captains. However, the former CFI's make much better captains. Why? They've actually taken an airplane away from someone? They can see an accident chain beginning where as someone who hasn't seen it will be less "in tune" to its development. The CFI's have developed skills that will help them deal with the many personality types they are likely to encounter "on the line". They know how to lead and they know how to teach....both are extremely important skills for a captain to have.

I couldn't agree more. While young(23) and straight out of college, I did come to the airlines with more experience than what has become the norm (2000T,600M,1200DualGiven). I was very thankful for the experience and judgement I gained in my time as an instructor and additionally flying single pilot corporate throughout the Rocky Mountains, Southern US and Mexico in light twins. It paid off in a recent situation which I won't discuss on a public venue. Thats why there are two pilots in airliners, you aren't there to learn the basics. It's checks and balances, you're there to make sure the other pilot doesn't screw up and vice versa and you need the experience to make the tough decisions.

FliFast 01-25-2008 01:51 AM


Originally Posted by bustinmins (Post 306524)
Here is some food for thought. "You're only one bird strike away from a battlefield promotion to Captain. Do you feel ready for that responsibility?"

Imagine it: You're making a night time, full-procedure ILS approach into a special airport that is nestled in between two mountain ranges. You've just past the FAF and have made the final configuration changes. You start down the pipe very stabilized. About 20 seconds past the FAF, the windshield shatters in front of the Captain..

I would have gone around, logged another .3 to bolster my pay as a form of hazard pay, then basked in the fact that I just moved up a number due to the Capt's untimely demise.

Consider the alter-ego of this questions' thread. What do you do if you're an F/O and your flying with a Capt with thousands of hours less experience than you.

I have more opinions, but this is one I'm enjoying from the sideline.

FF

ExperimentalAB 01-25-2008 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by bustinmins (Post 306625)
I'm old enough to remember when sex was fun and motorcycles were dangerous...what can I say?

Aren't motorcycles still dangerous?! But anyway, the way I figure, if I fly an Airplane the way I ride my bike, everybody gets to "B" safe and happy. My motorcycle, by the way, doesn't have auto-throttles or an Autopilot. :D

flyby 01-25-2008 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by bustinmins (Post 306625)
I'm old enough to remember when sex was fun and motorcycles were dangerous...what can I say?

Sex was fun, cant wait to tell the wife.:D


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