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Originally Posted by swa1018
(Post 305516)
got lucky I guess...Worked at an FBO, became good friends...part 91...got me an SIC type...owns an aviation insurance business...so probally fudged it...
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I would love to see an ARG/US & Wyvern rating for the regionals. But since they don't get rated, I guess I'll never know.
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Originally Posted by Jetjock65
(Post 305595)
Just to inform the airline guys out there- whoever told you that you need all kinds of time to put you in a buisness jet didnt know what the hell they were talking about- I was 22 yrs old with around 350hrs tt when I landed my first SIC gig in a Sabreliner 65 (2004). A year later got typed (PIC)
in the airplane with less than 500 tt. Oh and by the way it wasnt my dads airplane either. In the Corp. world (Part 91) hours play a very small role in getting a job, who you know AKA "Networking" is what really matters, second is that you have to be a likeable person , since you will be spending alot of time with the owners their familly and friends -We dont close cockpit doors in this buisness. I fly contract work alot now for the extra $$ and believe me I can now say I've flown with all kinds- total time is not what makes you a good pilot- the most dangerous ones I've seen in the past year are the 15,000 hr guys-theve gotten to a point were they think they have seen and done it all-and have forgotten that in our line of work something new can happen every day!! Enjoy the 800 my friend -you'll know when your ready to do something different-Corp. aviation can be a bit of a burnout so enjoy it now and get a schedule job when your ready-Trust me when I say an RJ will always be there waiting on you, but the Hawker may T/O and not come back. I do think you're on to something when you say that total time isn't everything, however it sure helps to have some experience other than just the training it takes to get a commercial ticket. |
Back when I was instructing, you had to have 500 multi to fly (teach in) the Duchess. Times have changed.
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Originally Posted by illinipilot
(Post 305671)
Wait a second, are you actually the P.I.C. or are you just flying from the left seat on empty legs or something like that? It seems pretty amazing that a insurance company would sign you off as P.I.C. with 550tt and only 200 time in type. Now that I think of it, you must have gotten some sort of special waiver in order to get your ATP with 1/3 the required time.
I do think you're on to something when you say that total time isn't everything, however it sure helps to have some experience other than just the training it takes to get a commercial ticket. You don't need an ATP to get typed. I've heard of people adding a 737 type to a PPL. Ofcourse this is only for part 91. |
There is a little too much resentment for low time guys getting oppurtunity to fly jets at any level. I agree with getting the CFI and instructing before the regionals. As far as time qualifying you to fly a jet, you might as well toss that idea right out the window.
I was one of the lower time guys in my class when i got hired last year (500 & 200), but on IOE my instructor did not have to take the controls at all, and I was told that I flew the CRJ like an experienced crew member, no lie. Now this is not to toot my own horn here, this is just to prove the point that time means little compared to the quality of that time, proper preparation, and a little wit. |
Ziggy, you're probably right, if i was a little bit less lazy, and way smarter, I should have looked that up.
CaribPilot, seriously not trying to flame here but I don't think anyone is questioning the flying abilities of any low timers. I think what is being called into question is the experiences of higher time pilots, which (sometimes) results in better desicision making skills when situations happen that are un-ordinary. |
"I think what is being called into question is the experiences of higher time pilots, which (sometimes) results in better desicision making skills when situations happen that are un-ordinary."
Well said. |
Originally Posted by de727ups
(Post 305736)
"I think what is being called into question is the experiences of higher time pilots, which (sometimes) results in better desicision making skills when situations happen that are un-ordinary."
Well said. |
Originally Posted by illinipilot
(Post 305731)
Ziggy, you're probably right, if i was a little bit less lazy, and way smarter, I should have looked that up.
CaribPilot, seriously not trying to flame here but I don't think anyone is questioning the flying abilities of any low timers. I think what is being called into question is the experiences of higher time pilots, which (sometimes) results in better desicision making skills when situations happen that are un-ordinary. My point is: Dont look at time for how well can one make decisions, stick rudder skills or anything else related. Look at how the flying time was achieved, how much common sense that person has, how attentive they are, and how prepared they are for the situation they are entering, to gauge how well that person will perform. |
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